Your vocal range (/ figuring it out)

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  1. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    That would make it D#3-C4
    You probably just have to train your voice a bit. You most definitely can go lower, that's for sure, and higher too.
  2. chronowarp Changed man

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    C2 to Bb4 I believe.
  3. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Pretty good, I can't go that low. F#2 is really the lowest I can go. Once when I had a cold and was just awake I could get to an F2, but really, that does not count.

    I do still work on my whistle for now.
  4. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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  5. Kochipahk Too late to be a pessimist

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    I think my lowest comfortable note is around D2, and it goes up to D4 without falsetto.

    F#5 at the absolute top of the falsetto range. This is incredibly strained and note really usable.
  6. Cow Moderator

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    Baritone, with a two & a half octave range, if I remember correctly.
  7. Facsimile Lives with his parents

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    I have Gb2 to B4 when I'm warmed up. I can get around A5 in falsetto.
  8. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Well the more I'm into this singing world, the more I have different ideas of fach.

    From a vocal test I once did, I'm a tenor. Mostly it's based rangewise and timbrewise.

    The thing is, according to Cathrine Sadolin, your fach is according to your timbre only. If it sounds heavy, you're Bariton, if it sounds very heavy, you're a Bass, and so on.

    I do see her point in that. Geoff Tate for instance, now he sings mostly in a tenor range (although that has changed since Empire), but his timbre is quite deep for a tenor. I would place him as a Bariton. Same for Mariah Carey, which, because of her range, people say is a Coloratura Soprano (highest female fach), but she doesn't sound so lyric, to my ears. She is more an alto, maybe mezzo.

    Thomas Appell, though, says your fach has to do with how low you can go (without using vocal fry), of course some singing experience/usage has to be made, to be sure how low you can go. Don't count how high you can go, because then you get problems with guys and girls who can go so high, like Adam Lopez, Miljenko Matijevic and such.

    Mariah Carey can go pretty low, as Tate for a male, so with that approach she is indeed an alto, and Tate's a Bariton.

    What would you call me?
    http://manolito.mystiq.googlepages.com/MGR_4Oct_2.MP3

    Although G2 is quite low, it's what many tenors can reach. According to Thomas I am indeed a tenor.
  9. chronowarp Changed man

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    Haha, Your vibrato sounds weird, but that was pretty cool how high you got.
  10. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Yes, I have to work on my vibrato. I tend to create one, rather than just letting it go, but whatever.
  11. chronowarp Changed man

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    are you a vocal performance major or what?
  12. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    As in what, conservatory?

    No I'm not. I am studying at the conservatory, but majoring in Flamenco Guitar(, minoring in Composition).

    For several years, actually when I started joining the Dream Theater forums (dt.net 2002), I did a whole lot of self research about singing. I read books, took lessons, courses, analysed, made a research about it. I'm really a want-to-master-it-all-by-himself kinda person in that field. The big weakness I had for a long time, though, was holding back. Recently that has changed, though, at the start of this year.

    I actually thought of doing a major in Singing at the Pop Academy of my conservatory, but the head of the Academy said I was too good for the Academy, that I'm too intellectually autodidactic for the school. That doesn't mean I have nothing to learn, though, but I've come a long way all by myself. I have the knowledge and understanding, I just need to do it now.

    So, I was quite surprised by his answer, but it's good news.
  13. chronowarp Changed man

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    cool man. good to know. so you'd be a good person to go to for singing tips.
  14. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Sure, for quite some years back at the DT.net forums, Martin Dahlberg (he's left the boards) G2-G6 (same thing) and I where really trying to help all we can. Back then there was a special Vocalists forum, though.
  15. Morbix Junior Member

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    Yeah, I've had 0 training, so it's not surprising I'm not up to potential.
  16. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    BUMP: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFUthLvYms"]YouTube - Whistle Register singing by a male (G6-B6)[/ame]
  17. Justin Aiken Highly Refined Pirate

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    D2-E3

    I have a tiny range and a horrible voice.
  18. the_scoon Junior Member

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    C1 - E3, beyond if I go into head voice. My top head voice note is a D4.
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    C1? You sure, dude? I mean that's REALLY fucking low, over an octave below my lowest.
  20. the_scoon Junior Member

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    I'm a second bass whenever I do choral work. I can record my lowest note if you want :P
  21. Molon_UK Moderators suck

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    Nah, that's cool, I just wanted to check. That's an impressive note to be hitting :tup
  22. Justin Aiken Highly Refined Pirate

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    C1, like the third white key up on the piano? That's impressive!
  23. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    My range now is F#2-Eb7 if I would go for the extremes.
    Comfortably, though, it's G2-G6

    Don't you mean C2 - E4 (-D5)?

    Is C4 middle C, or do you use the midi notation (where I think C4 = C3)?

    Mano
  24. the_scoon Junior Member

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    Ahhh... I used Midi notation, sorry. Didn't know there was a difference between the two...
  25. Cheezinator That's why you're in my room tonight

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    Jeez I was dumb when I made this thread (2.5 years ago). That was before I'd ever had any training or participated in any choirs.

    Already posted my comfortable range in the thread in GD, but I guess I'll say here that, on my best of singing days, I'm G2-Ab4 for my regular voice, and up to F5 or F#5 in falsetto (still sounds bad but not as bad as it used to).

    Sometimes I wake up early in the morning and for some reason can sing down to like E2, and then I lose it later in the day as I talk and such.
  26. the_scoon Junior Member

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    My lowest sometimes ranges from D2, which is almost always comfortable, to Bb2 on really good days. I'm trying to improve my upper register at the moment though, as I'm singing more contemporary stuff, and thus kinda requires a higher range rather than a super low range.
  27. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Chez, did you check out my range by now, because you were curious, and well, it's been a while that I've posted my range.

    Mano
  28. Cheezinator That's why you're in my room tonight

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    Are you talking about the samples you posted? I played the video on this page... that's pretty intensely high stuff there.
  29. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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  30. abydos Radioactive Dildo

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    man, that sounds like a screeching door :lol can you do it more manly?
  31. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Actually, I sometimes imitate the screeching doors at the conservatory.

    And more manly? You mean with a bit of distortion? As of yet, I didn't try that.

    Mano
  32. chronowarp Changed man

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    without any fasetto or vocal fry i am at about C2 to F4, but with those i am at
    Bb1 to G5. all i used to figure that out is my guitar tuner.
  34. nomemf wow great

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    if the high e on a guitar is E4 and the low e is an E2, apparently I'm D2-A4
  35. chronowarp Changed man

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    Bb1? ....uh...sound clips?
  36. mits5k Junior's Member

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    Man, from when I originally posted in this thread I would scale back what I consider my usable range. Sure, I can still sing those notes, but in my own music at this point I really only use about a 2 octave range. At some point along the line I realized two things: First, I can't sing all over the place for any extended period of time (so performing any of my old vocal melodies live would be a problem) and second, I really just prefer to be comfortable when I sing. I'm a baritone and I am just going to stop trying to fight it. As a result, my actual singing voice and pitch have gotten a LOT lot better. :)
  37. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    F2-C7 it has become now.

    The thing is, I'm just not satisfied with my sound. It's so flat.
    The only exception was a spontaneous action of recording myself doing the first part of Children of the Damned (more like the Sebastian Bach version, as my voice is lighter than Bruce's and more like Sebastian's, without all the growling). While still just above average, it's one of the few times I can endure my own singing when listening.
    Range is nothing if your tone is not so flattering.
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    So where would you place Maynard James Keenan, ive heard many say tenor but i would think possibly lower...maybe baritone?
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    Fuuuuck, nowhere near this now. G2-F4 :tard

    So out of practice, and that throat infection probably didn't help. Really want to work on this again.
  40. Genomer 5/8 Supporter

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    F2 to G5. Lighter pink is where I go into falsetto, lightest pink is where it becomes a whistley screech. G5 is literally painful to sing, I can only just do it.
  41. chronowarp Changed man

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    I think I can get down to a C2 early in the morning, but it's usually C#2. I can get up to about an F4 before I have to go into falsetto, and I don't really count after that because faggy time falsetto doesn't matter.
  42. fluorescent >

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    My range is utter shit, I can't go very low, or very high, I'm kinda stuck in the middle. I guess I have to be a rapper if I ever want to use my voice or sing over 3 chord indie.
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  43. Kahless Heil Ragnarok!

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    My usable range is about C#2-Bb4, which is pretty normal for an opera baritone (which I am). I haven't really worked on getting a "usable" falsetto - I know a lot of rock and metal singers, like Bruce Dickinson and Steve Walsh, have really powerful falsettos that they use above B4, but I can't really get my falsetto to sound like that. I can sing up pretty high in falsetto - on a good day up to about Eb6 - but it doesn't sound awesome, it sounds like I'm trying to imitate a woman.
  44. chronowarp Changed man

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    Pretty sure those types of guys aren't doing pure falsetto. It's some sort reinforced fagsetto.
  45. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

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    Down to E2 is possible, but I'd say comfortably it's still F#2-B6.
    I don't trust my F2s and C7s.