Worst thing about playing guitar

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  1. Dignan fucking cunt

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    Looking down at picking hand during hard passages and getting a double chin.

    Maybe that's why so many guitarists have beards :ponder
  2. Talon Junior Member

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    never having the emotional range of a horn or the harmonic versatility of a piano? yeah
  3. LilPop IDK LOL

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    choosing which one of my legs to rest the guitar body on.
  4. Dignan fucking cunt

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    That's why people should play two instruments
  5. Dignan fucking cunt

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    Yeah that's annoying. I'll also add trying to play sitting down on a chair with arm rests
  6. Snipergoat Junior Member

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    Inb4 Chronowarp rage.
  7. Snakedragon Suit Up!

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    Re-stringing/tuning a Floyd Rose
  8. danni May contain traces of nuts

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    Consider yourself lucky though...

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  9. chronowarp Changed man

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    I don't ever look down at my fretting hand, because I'm not a guitar noob.
  10. chronowarp Changed man

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    LOL. And you play...drums?

    The electric guitar has the emotional range of a horn, easily. Harmonic versatility of a piano? Uh, you can't hit as many notes at once, but you generate tons of open voicings that are physically impossible on piano. Then again, the piano is about as expressive and manipulative as a rock (again, musical trade off). we've already had this discussion before and I steamrolled you, so I don't know why you'd try to bring it up again.

    The overwhelmingly important issue is that every instrument has boundaries, and the guitar sits in a position where it is so good at most things that it's the predominant instrument in most all western music.
  11. Talon Junior Member

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    get back to me when you can convincingly crescendo
  12. chronowarp Changed man

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    Very simple. It's called roll your volume pot or learn how to use a volume pedal.

    I do it all the time in big band.
  13. Talon Junior Member

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    yeah, and it sounds like you're just turning a knob up :brutus

    horns and bowed strings change timbre when they swell. it's what's known as "being emotive."
  14. Spyral2112 Chewin' baby guts

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    What about an acoustic when you have no volume pot.
  15. Dignan fucking cunt

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    I said picking hand bro. Totally agree, one of the most important technique transitions is from being able to concentrate on the picking hand rather than fretting hand.

    I know this from experience because I spent ages trying to learn to alt pick well without looking at my right hand, and it's damn near impossible.
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  17. chronowarp Changed man

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    You realize the tone changes when you roll off a volume pot, right? A bunch of treble bleeds off when you turn down.
  18. chronowarp Changed man

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    oh i forgot yousie plays piano, lulululul.
  19. Talon Junior Member

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    still doesn't sound good :>
  20. chronowarp Changed man

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    That's even weirder. I've never looked at my right hand ever.
  21. chronowarp Changed man

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    That's your opinion, but you're still wrong. I can crescendo on guitar. :grunge
  22. Dignan fucking cunt

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    Can you alt pick fast? If not, try it. Helps loads when developing the technique
  23. danni May contain traces of nuts

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    I actually find electric jazz-guitar to be stale and boring a lot of the times. It always seems to be that guitarists strive for that "clean" sound and then play a lot of sixteenth-note phrases that are really SMOOTH (and boring).

    This is something I find strange, since the electric guitar has so many interesting effects, like the overdrive and the wah-wah pedal (and a gajillion others, that you guys probably know a hell of a lot more about than I do).

    On the other hand, horn players actually train to be able to make sounds that are unusual, when playing jazz.
  24. wogbog og og

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    From listening to them the last 2-3 years, guitar doesn't work very well for delicate genres like jazz and classical. More of a "fuck yeah being a badass playing simple shit" instrument.
  25. Dignan fucking cunt

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  26. chronowarp Changed man

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    Depends what you mean by fast. I will admit, it is definitely my weakest area. I am leaps and bounds better at really fast economy picking, and I've always struggled with alt picking at high speed. I'll try it.
  27. chronowarp Changed man

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    Agreed. Listen to some fusion.

    The clean, sterile ass Jazz Guitar sound is something perpetuated by a lot of directors. I don't have free reign over what I sound like in an ensemble, because the director expects something (good or not). A crisp, overdriven guitar is way more hornlike and expressive. It gives you a more sustained, colorful tone...

    It's a shame that in the education system the concept of Jazz is 1960's and before, and it rarely delves with anything beyond that. In addition to that, it makes some sense in the fact that in Jazz ensemble the guitar is treated exclusively as a rhythm section instrument; the overtones get much louder with a distorted sound, and so jazz voicings can really nasty sounding. Cleaner, the better for shit like that.
  28. chronowarp Changed man

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    ???
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98y0Q7nLGWk"]YouTube - Paganini_Caprice_no_24[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDuee6blvj8"]YouTube - Ted Greene - Solo Guitar - Autumn Leaves[/ame]

    Also, what the shit gave you the idea that Jazz is delicate? Too much time in an elevator lately, c'mon? Jazz is fucking noise music. How delicate is this? :
    http://kimpossibilities.net/audio/The_Book_of_Changes/14_Harmonic_East.mp3

    I can understand Classical, well sort of, the guitar is exceptional at playing beautiful solo arrangements. The variety of timbre a good Classical guitarist can coax from a guitar is nothing short of impressive. In an ensemble, ya, I think Classical guitar sounds pretty dumb (unless it's like a guitar quartet), because it wasn't developed or conceptualized for that context.
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad_Zzh1CWwo"]YouTube - Béla Bartók plays Chopin Nocturne opus 27 no. 1[/ame]

    Expressive as a rock, apparantly.
  30. chronowarp Changed man

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    Piano is really limited on an expressive scale. What most people take away from it is denseness and loudness, after all, once you a strike a key it decays and you have absolute no control over it. It's the drawback of having almost an entire musical range and 10 fingers to play it. If you take some, you have to leave some.
  31. Snipergoat Junior Member

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    It has limitations, but it's still expressive. There's still a wide range of dynamics (don't forget the soft pedal), you can tremelo notes to do volume swells etc... Rubato is pretty important on keyboard instruments as well I think when playing solo. Also, it's just a good sounding instrument.
  32. chronowarp Changed man

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    I'm not in a disagreement with you.
  33. NafGorp You will hate me

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    The worst thing about playing guitar is that no matter how much you practice every aspect of your playing, there will always be someone that is better than you.
  34. Scary Ed Don't tempt me Frodo

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    That's true of just about everything though.
  35. Uncle Damfee Fuck

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    worst thing about playing guitar:


    easy as fuck instrument that retards can play
  36. wogbog og og

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    The only thing I dislike about playing guitar is that like 50% of dudes play it.

    strong hipster

    That Autumn Leaves video was pretty. idk never been able to get into classical guitar (some stuff strikes me as really cool but never enjoyed a full album of it) or 99.9% of fusion. Still in the 50s and early 60s for my jazz listening so haven't heard too many dudes using less clean tones. I think it'd be a cool idea but I still end up hating fusion.
  37. NafGorp You will hate me

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    Yeah, true.
  38. e_brown well this page is gold

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    uhhhhhhhhhh

    thank you chrono. oh btw, i assume you've heard Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez? There's an example of classical guitar in a group context. It has its limitations but the composition is pretty amazing.