Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus

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  1. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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    The stuff Laozi said was about the 3rd law of thermodynamics though.
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  3. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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    Good video, but trying to show that the Bible is bullshit by pointing out inconsistencies is like trying to prove that Harry Potter isn't a historical document by finding contradictions and plot holes.
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    Don't know if you guys ever heard this, but St. Christopher was suspected of being a "Dog head". I can't believe is missed this... :XD
    Some paintings depict him as that...
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  6. Technetium a 12-year-old girl showing her tits on stickam

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    The 2nd law of thermodynamics shows that matter progresses from order to disorder, a process called entropy. In order for matter to progress from disorder to order on a local basis requires an input of energy from outside that local system. For the earth to have a progression from chaos of amino acids into complex life would require that a massive source of energy be supplying the earth with energy for this process to take place. Unfortunately for evolutionists, there is no such source of energy that we know of.
  7. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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    is that copypasta
  8. Klem 5/8 Supporter

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    >2012
    >ignoring the sun
    ISHYGDDT
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  9. Technetium a 12-year-old girl showing her tits on stickam

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    It could be now... It was something I remembered seeing on some creationist's argument somewhere like a year ago.
  10. chronowarp Changed man

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    except the law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems.
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  11. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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    @ Tech: It's certainly very believable.

    This isn't aimed at anybody, but once and for all, entropy =/= order/disorder. In communicating science to the public, scientists often face the problem of having to communicate concepts that are very abstract and mathematical to a general audience. As such, they frequently have to make somewhat misleading statements (and the whole entropy = measure of disorder is a classical example of this). It's not as if scientists sit around with clipboards looking at random objects and asking each other "which do you think has more entropy, that cat or that chair?" Entropy is an abstract, rigorously defined mathematical quantity, and certainly can't be tossed around lightly as creationists so love doing.
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    i believe in Jesus Christ and i deem your post very entropious :facepalm
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    On the second law, creationists also seem to require us to use our intuitive understanding of complexity as opposed to the formal definition. Presumably humans are "obviously more complex" than rocks, but the formal definition of complexity used in the second law of thermodynamics isn't our intuitive notion. I don't know much physics; is there even an entropic sense in which humans are obviously more complex than rocks?

    EDIT: Typed this before NikTh's post, which I guess addresses this.
  14. Aack each time u kill a kitten

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    Exactly. In fact, the concept of order has no place in science. Everything that science studies is a different manifestation of CHAOS.

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  15. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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    checkmate, scientists
  16. Talon i thought abutt you

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    curb your entropy :censored
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  17. dissentience President of PC Gaming Master Race

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    This Kaleidoscope dude is a supercomputer or something, right? I find it nigh impossible to believe that a rational human being would make posts like his.
  18. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    >2012
    >giving retarded biblical creationists any amount of attention at all (unless for education/public policy purposes) or making them prominent parts of your tirades against the entire concept of religion
    ISHYGDDT
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  19. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    all of Science is true, and God will kill you all anyway.
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  20. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    religion inspired some of the greatest academic and aesthetic achievements in human history, and to the thinkers and artists who authored such achievements through such inspiration, "God" was as real as any rock on the street, so all you smug-as-fuck militant atheist do-nothing fuckups can shut the fuck up and go curl up in your corner while continuing to jerk your rational-fascist dicks while the rest of us go out and savor much-needed variety in processing stimuli from life and existence.
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  21. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    science too in the end is merely an institution. granted it's an empirically consistent one that allows for many practical benefits, but it can't explain the whole fucking universe, nor are what it can explain the only things that matter in life. shut the fuck up.
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  22. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    oh, and fuck God
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  23. Saber Blessed Visionary

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    strong bitter nihilist
  24. Asteroid steve.jpg

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    dude quick take it back :o
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  25. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    if what you got from all that is "nihilism" you have a problem with one of the following: reading, English, or caring enough to post correctly
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  27. Talon i thought abutt you

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    FLIPPANTPATEIC
  28. Tepes # GrandUnified

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    Kinda agree with Mr. Choi's statements but not entirely. The artistic part it's not really true... because the whole point of the renaissance is that artists returned to where it all remained, the Roman and Greek philosophy and aesthetics. Christianity brought a censorship and simplistic dumbed down view of nearly every art form. Most artists worked for the church because that was their only choice but most of them were not really christians....you can see that in the refusal of following canonical byzantine traditions and bringing nudity and classical representation of anatomy in the mix.
    It really didn't help anybody. Just ruined and erased at least 1500 years of innovation creativity and science in general. Whatever will moderate christian say now in the XXI century is irrelevant because we saw the true face of "god" in that period and i'll be damned if i won't stop it from returning ever again.

    I don't buy that "we can have both a religious and scientific point of view" for a second, because the lack of mystical indoctrination leaves room for every imaginable view in the universe. Atheism doesn't mean one point of view...just an infinity of other non-retarded ones.

    Religious people are the most retarded people in the history of human kind just because of how they defend their own "prison". It's the greatest pyramidal scheme of all times and the winner is called a Pope. I think humanity has grown beyond that.
  29. Talon i thought abutt you

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    tell me that the devotional poetry of George Hebert or John Donne would have been written were there no religion :colbert:

    stealing a christopher hitchens argument (lol poetry)
  30. Tepes # GrandUnified

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    Didn't say that religious people didn't do shit. I was just talking about the wasted potential during those times when religion ruled the world. Even Newton who was one the smartest people ever, when he hit a wall that he couldn't understand he blamed all on god and gave up....a thing repeated by many scientists of that period. I wonder if he lived during our time, how many walls would he climb knowing that there isn't any magical shit behind it.
  31. Talon i thought abutt you

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    that's my point though. religion is a direct and necessary cause of devotional poetry. devotional poets' potential was maximized because religion ruled the world.
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    In a strange way most atheist will respond that they have some form of spirituality....the most creative visual artists i know are atheists....and also the only poetry writer that i know personally is an atheist. I know you're trolling but i still can't view religion as a vital ingredient in human creativity, quite the opposite. When speaking about great dead artists that were religious, we can say that about most people of that time.
  33. Talon i thought abutt you

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    do you know what the word "devotional" means
  34. Tepes # GrandUnified

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    yes
  35. Kahless Heil Ragnarok!

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    I've never seen any correlation between people's religious beliefs and their artistic capabilities.
  36. Tepes # GrandUnified

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    exactly..it doesn't have anything to do with religion.
  37. wogbog og og

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    Cathedrals are cooler than all the other buildings in town.

    ...therefore . . .
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  38. the Catfishman .

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    Catholics are rich.
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  39. Tepes # GrandUnified

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    during that period there wasn't much of a choice, and also what Catfishman said.
  40. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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    strong mathboy whiteknighting itt
  41. NikTh Do you know the way out?

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  42. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    um
  43. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    nice arbitrary definition of "coolness"
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  45. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    On Stuart Murdoch, lead singer and songwriter for Belle and Sebastian:


    :)
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  46. Acharjay from nz but cool anyway

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    if only atheism offered a secular equivalent to singing hymns every sunday morning at church
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  47. FLAPAPATEIC #teammathbeast

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    atheism has no soul
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  49. Zorbo english worms

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    neither do humans (or anything)
  50. Acharjay from nz but cool anyway

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    try telling that to jesus, athei-fag

    he's listening to you right now btw



    and he watches you poop
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