This video and the ensuing comments make me rage so damn hard. Then these tards move over to TAA's rebuttal, which is pretty shitty, and spread their hatred and intolerance. I swear people.
"Talos is the most legitimate of the Nine, never even heard of this Jesus." crazyeightballz 48 seconds ago
If Christianity isn't a religion, when are they going to file to remove their tax-exempt status.. Wait.. What's that? No? Thought so.
I swear at least 20 people posted/reposted that first vid on facebook. The back ground music sucks so hard.
Lol does he say "In the Old Testament God actually calls religious people whores"? I should put that in my FB religious views section.
The Bible a book about Religion or relationship? The Bible a collection of fairy tales or messages to man from God? The following is a link to information presented by Dr. Walter Veith. Walter Veith was raised in the Catholic religion as a child and became repulsed by it. As a result he became an atheist/evolutionist professor during his mid life and then later he became a believer in the Bible and a follower of Jesus as life events propelled him to realize the truth. Links to his personal testimony and to his curriculum vitae are also included. Dr. Walter Veith The Earth in Time and Space: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDGHxyuxNmg Dr. Walter Veith personal testimony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LETvVezBXio Dr. Walter Veith curriculum vitae: http://storage.amazingdiscoveries.org/assets/files/ADDownloads/Veith_Curriculum_Vitae.pdf
What's so rage-worthy about the original video? It's a poem the guy wrote, who cares? I figured you guys might even think "cool, someone who keeps to himself and doesn't shove an organization's self-serving needs down our throat". It's obvious some of the sentences in his poem are more concerned with a rhyme or a "punchline" than actually substance, but I say again that IT'S A POEM. A 14-minute dissection of it seems pretty stupid. The guy isn't submitting an academic paper about the differences between Jesus' message and the running of most organized religion, it's a 4-minute thing saying that religion takes some good ideas but uses them for monetary gain and hatred instead of good. I will agree that just throwing this on Facebook and saying "OMG <3 <3" is pretty shallow, but it seems like a lot of you are reacting to the video's content, which comes across as extremely benign.
TAA really needs to stop. Also, I don't see what's wrong with what the original video is saying? If you don't believe then you don't believe, but if you do, the quicker you realize the teachings of the historical or even biblical Jesus and those of the Churches have disparaging differences the better.
it's a book where you get to pick and choose which bits to accept and which to disregard (as if you are somehow able to "see" the "intended" message better than those who wrote it [in another language centuries ago]) it's a book that contradicts itself and promotes all sorts of vile behaviour it's a book that makes you do mental gymnastics to try to justify the bizarre things you read in it it's a book historically used by those with power to control those without power god can phone me up using his omnipotence if he has messages for me yeah i got baited i know
Furthermore, it's a book that never claims everything written inside it is undisputed fact. Nor does any passage of the Bible claim that you are reading the "Word of God." That's something the "Religion" made up.
It's the fact that it's trying to market the same bullshit in a pretty bullshit package. Like I stated, it's causing a bunch of idiots to spam comment with stuff like "Christianity isn't a religion! It's a relationship with god!" Yeah? Well, then you lose the perks of being a religion. Every time I ask them about if they're willing to give up said perks, they change the subject or start hemming and hawing... Then start whining that atheism is a religion too.
What perks? I can't think of many perks that I'm not happy to part ways with. Not saying you should care.
That's kinda what makes TAA and his ilk so annoying. The claim that they "don't care" is usually betrayed by the fact they very clearly do, or they'd be able to shut-up about it and stop making an obsession of things they don't believe in or (claim) to care about at all. Granted, it's one thing respond to annoying Fundies and people trying to use their religion to control your life. I understand atheists who go through that and feel their pain, since most Christians group me in with Atheists/agnostics anyway due to my unconventional way of looking at my faith. And if people like TAA were just reacting and venting about crap like that, I'd get it. But for people to get all up in arms and go on a Youtube tirade because some people have chosen to define themselves and their faith a certain way is another thing. For one, it's a pretty clear sign showing that regardless of what certain people say, they do "care".
So where on the sanity-insanity spectrum does paranoia about the religious beliefs of others put you?
Sorry, I just assumed your otherwise contextless statement about sane/insane people was meant to be taken in the context of this thread.
I'd say the claim that religions cause wars is somewhat off base. A more significant factor is peoples' refusal to at least attempt to understand the viewpoints of those on the other side, including their religions.
I agree with that. Granted I only listened to the thing once, and I was kinda distracted, isn't that sort of the line of thought that free-style poet is on anyway?
Exactly. If you make a 14-minute video reaction to a 4-minute freakin POEM then you very clearly care.
lol I love the backlash. Boo hoo, some retard who thinks he's making some sort of statement about the tenets of religion and how they're (somehow) separate from the concept of Jesus gets called out on his stupidity. Don't make fun of him! You clearly care too much! Why would you bother If you don't agree just be quiet! Fuck off. If you make a professional quality video making retarded claims that blows up all over the internet, people are going to call you out on it.
It wouldn't be so bad of his critics were either making good points or not annoying as fuck. Most of their arguments can be answered by saying the poet was talking about organized religion. It's still not clear what he is talking about though since he says he loves the church.
@ moonmang the whole thing is, as I keep saying, IT'S A POEM! So what if it got popular? I don't think anyone is proclaiming that they will use this 4-minute video as their new ethical code for the rest of their lives, so it really DOESN'T make that much sense to nitpick every little thing. If you think the video's dumb, that's fine. I'm not saying it's brilliant or even that good. It just comes across as atheists yet again making their entire argument 'hahaha religious people are so stupid!" The TAA video highlights this when he meticulously breaks down every sentence in the video. It's not an academic thesis, it's a poem. There are enough religious people who do genuinely stupid things to a harmful degree that attacking a poem on YouTube seems like a huge waste of time.
Roses are red Violets are blue Maybe AH was right About all dem jews It's a poem, so what if it gets popular?
The problem is, like 80 percent of your post also is applicable to (lol) "The Amazing Atheist", which is the point I'm making. Also, there's plenty of difference between what religions say, what the Bible says "Jesus" said, and what history verifies about Jesus. It's convenient for intellectually lazy assholes like The Amazing Atheist to group all Christians in one big group and pretend there's no difference between them, but it's not correct. Anyone who's ever thought about religion above a high-school level knows that Churches especially tend to have some of the most vehement disagreements with one another about literally everything. These are just some of the reasons why TAA, r/atheism, and so on suck. Rather than giving these issues and arguments as serious consideration, which would take all of a couple of hours, the discussion instead almost always just turns into an endless circle jerk where people project what they think the believer probably believes onto them and then the gangbang ensures.
lol If people critically thought about religion at above a high-school level, then religion would cease to exist.
Or, you could realize that people all around the world look at things from different perspectives, and discover that you actually enjoy hearing people out and delight in finding out the nuances of their beliefs a lot more than you enjoy HARHAR ITS SCIENCE VS. THE BIBLE THUMPERS HAHARAHA
