Hello 5/8 CLICK THE THING Recorded by us again, but properly, and sent off for mastering with John Ruburto at Crystal Mastering in Melbourne. I'm so fucking proud of this, and I really hope you guys enjoy it, for what it's worth. If you enjoy it, feel free to send the link onto other people who you think might enjoy it also. We did this all ourselves, besides the mastering, so it cost us basically nothing and came out incredible, so we have no problems giving it away Leave some comments and shit too Thanks GUIZE
The only problem I have with this ,really, s the fact that it's the sam thing over and over. There's no versatility at all, the vocals all sound the same, all the riffs sound similar, it's not really all that creative...It just doesn't stand out whatsoever. That being said it's good for what it is, though.
I'm actually curious as to what you do on this-- I thought you played the keys? It's okay I guess-- I don't know, I don't listen to this sort of music. This could be the best example of it on the planet and it still probably wouldn't do a lot for me. Some of the riffs are pretty cool. The production is LIGHTYEARS beyond anything I've heard of your various projects. Well done. (Though, it still sounds a little garage band-y, which is mostly the fault of the drums [chiefly the snare] and the vocals, which sound a bit thin and washed out). I was expecting a female vocalist and, as this was uploading to my iphone so I could listen to it, I perused some of the lyrics. They're pretty immature and poor in my opinion, which made it a welcome surprise that the actual lyrics don't really pop since they are screamed rather than sung. Those are my two cents
Haha, actually I'm the vocallist. No more keys playing in my future. Regarding the lyrics, well, i don't know what to say. I'm not going to defend myself or anything. I wrote what I felt strongly about while writing, and okay some of those things are reasonably cliche or whatever, but I didn't feel as though there was any point to writing lyrics for this style that didn't mean something to me, didn't make me want to actually do vocals like that. The only thing I can say is that they will improve over time, like anything else.
your drummer is kind of sloppy, but i like the production and in general this was a positive surprise. wax sealed kicks ass
in what parts? just for his reference. there are a few bits we actually did without a click because it was too hard to program, and a few flubs we left in because they ruled. but i can say that for 90% of the tracking, the click was absolutely inaudible. dude buries it so hard. edit: And yeah, the cd name was originally a refence to said episode, however I stumbled across it in a list of old name suggestions and felt like it fit the recordings well, for a variety of reasons. It doesn't have any significant meaning attached to NGE at any rate, apart from the name.
thanks man! glad someone on here liked it, 5/8 is a tough crowd for anything that isn't metal or post-rock
Massively simplify the opinions and tastes of the 5/8 population, that's sure going to make people want to listen to your band
Good point. If I was being serious. Go troll somewhere else. People know what I'm like here, ie, fucking annoying. But it's called the internet and I enjoy annoying you guys If people aren't going to listen to it because of their opinion of me as I appear on the internet, well, their choice I guess. Myspace link in my sig by the way, but I think the latter half of the CD is stronger, so I still recommend a download and spin
Listening now and writing as I do so. First impressions are very good, but where's the bass? I mean...it's there, sure, but there isn't much body to it at all, which detracts from the overall 'punchiness', and at first it gave me the impression that the mix had been AJFA'd until I got further into it and listened a bit closer. Actually, now I come to think of it the production would be much better with more depth to the bottom end all round - the guitars and even the drums are kind of lacking there too. As for you personally Cat, your vocals remind me a lot of Beecher, Johnny Truant, and at rare moments Pig Destroyer. This is a very, very good thing, and long may you continue. Just finished. I think this has potential, but it needs some refinement. All in good time I guess. Just keep doing what you're doing, and let it develop naturally - you're off to a great start.
Both scott and I agreed that the only thing really lacking in the mix was a delicious bass sound, which is a shame because temp's bass tone out of his amp is one of the best live sounds I've ever heard. It's one of those things that takes as much work to get right as guitars, but I don't think we nailed it well at all on this one. But you know, live and learn right? I doubt we'll be doing another recording of this band ourselves, as I personally would like to make the next (first) official release really professional and do it in a legit studio and whatnot. Also, the mastering removed a lot of the low end, but I'm assuming it's because it was a little muddy sounding, rather than a fat, clean low end. I think John did a great job making it sound as clear and professional as he could, but yeah, the low end did suffer for it. It comes through here and there though, but not overall as much as it should. Thanks for the kind words about my vocals! I'm sure plenty of people are aware of how much I sucked when I started recording myself over a year ago, but I think I've improved a lot over that time, so it's nice to hear good comments about it And we shall definitely continue. It's also worth noting that the songwriting will improve when we sit down and write songs over a longer period than a couple of hours. We were very pushed for time while writing due to deadlines that now don't even exist, so at the end of the day, we could have spent more time on that part. Paper Cranes was written in 2 or 3 hours the day before we tracked the drums, if that gives any indication of the speed we had to write in. I think the songwriting will get better as we write with calmer minds and pay more attention to the transitions and whatnot
I'm only on the third song, but I'm liking it quite a lot so far. I must echo the statements about the lack of low end, but I think you're aware of that, so it isn't much of an issue. I'm liking your vocals as well. Good job.
I think that, upon further listens with plenty of time in between, the bass is actually very much there, but the mastering took a lot of the low end out of it all, probably because it wasn't a very nice low end, as I said. If you actually listen out for it, I think the bass parts are quite easy to hear a lot of the time, they just lack the grumble and body that they could have had if we'd spent more time really getting a handle on the tone of it. But regardless, thanks man. Appreciate the vocals comment too The thing I'm most happy with is the fact that I don't even really feel like I've reached my potential with them yet either, and that they'll only get better between now and the next time we record. I definitely learnt a lot about my voice doing these recordings, that's for sure
I agree with this - there's enough midrange bass, it's just the missing lower frequencies that suck out some of the impact that certain parts could otherwise have. Still, live and learn!
We won't be doing anything else ourselves after this, I don't think, but I'm sure Scott will find all this helpful with future recordings I'm super keen to work with an actual engineer/producer next time, as an outside opinion while recording could be really great. Besides, we're probably not going to do anything else until we have a bit of support from a label or something; the implication thereof is that we'll be known enough and there will be enough interest to make actually recording another CD a worthwhile exercise. Nothing worse than bands that just persist in throwing stuff down people's throats when it's not really wanted.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRvQ9pOj_vY"]YouTube- STATUES - Chandeliers (Played by iamrichlol)[/ame]
Cheers for all the comments lads! The points made about the bass are entirely warranted; it was really the one thing in the mix I just couldn't get right I'm really quite happy with the production in every other way; I think I've pushed my very limited gear to a new level I haven't really reached before, which pleased me. Not to mention the mixing didn't take me as long as usual. Still took me an age though. I was working on the whole project literally up to the last minutes before leaving to Europe.
good thing I don't listen to shitty bands to know what you mean then huh. what do you think apart from that, elmo? if you'd be so kind as to give me an honest answer rather than a trollish, overly abusive answer about how it 'sure is no technical death metal.' or some shit.
The vocals are really good, you have a great voice man. Overall it sounds pretty good, I agree that it could be a little bit more imaginative, but for what it is, it's really good.
Thanks bro, keen to spend some actual time writing better stuff soon. That won't be around till next year, but it's at least something we can work on. I think we're starting to find things we like in the songs, and things we don't, which is a good thing
I've been really sick of the genre recently, so it wouldn't be fair to comment on the CD as a whole at the moment however, I enjoy your vocals, Cat
Bump just to see if anyone has downloaded it in the meantime, or has listened to it again since. It's definitely fun to play live, that's for sure. We're starting to write a proper EP now which will be out hopefully Feb/March next year, we want to spend a good deal of time making the songwriting better and saving enough money to fly over east and get it done really well
Nice! Vocals remind me of this band [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg0PhgHNVIE"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
Thanks Legacy bro And yeah, I heard the similarities a while ago as well, nice that someone else picked up on it! It wasn't really a conscious thing though. Scott has learnt a bunch of songs off Son Of The Morning though so a bit of it creeps into the guitar ideas Small update: We're going to hopefully be releasing a split with a band here called Vanity who are signed and touring over east a fair bit, so getting a couple of new songs on a label and nationally distributed release will be excellent. New stuff is definitely already a lot better given we're not rushing the shit out of it
All the songs sound the same or is it just me? I've changed the song Chandeliers at about 1:02 and when The Insane Pursuit Of Sanity started, it seemed like i never skipped the track. I think the drum beat and voice are too monotonous, the rest is rather good.
That makes it sound like you're just skipping through the tracks at random points, which makes your opinion awfully hard to take seriously. I can understand my vocals being a bit samey but the drum beats definitely aren't, that's for sure. Admittedly, we wrote the current set of songs VERY quickly, so some of the ideas are similar in different songs, but as whole songs they are pretty definable. Do you listen to a lot of this sort of thing? I'm not being narky, I actually have no idea what your taste in music is like. We're concentrating on moving on from this CD anywho, so any criticisms are helpful
Yeah, to be fair, anyone who doesn't listen to a lot of this kind of stuff will think it's samey, but most of my favorite bands are "samey" in that sense.
Aye, the most immediate examples for me are Defeater and Dead Swans, who really manage to contain a very tangible feeling/style within a release. But then you have bands like The Chariot who have "samey" feeling CDs where that feeling is generated by the sheer volume of different crazy ideas, to the point where it's such a whirlwind of noise that it feels very one-dimensional until you knuckle into it deeply. Not being overly complimentary to our work in that it is as amazing as those examples, but I do think the CD is somewhat of a grower. Preprod is starting for our split release with Vanity. Should be out in Jan/Feb, all going smoothly. Already sounding different but more.. more to-the-point as far as making what we want to do work. Just better, I guess, being that we are actually taking our time to really craft the songs rather than just throwing any old random shit together. Am excited
Writing update? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01_SlWKyM1M"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
lol which one There isn't one yet. Besides, that reduces the laffs. We will actually do some semi-informative videos when we can be bothered. I know people on here don't seem be overly interested, but we're doing okay here and it'll be nice to do some proper videos at some point.
Got bored and listened to every track last night. I actually kind of enjoyed it this spin; a few tracks made it to my iPod. I like Cat's voice, but Cat can you sing at all cuzzzz? It'd be cool to hear some la la la la la going on with the rororororo
Not really, man. I can a little, but not on key enough for a band that is taking itself halfway seriously. I'm going to clean my voice up a little for the recordings we're doing soon, more a spoken/yelly kind of tone mixed in with the other stuff, as well as some actual spoken bits, ala mwY etc. Whatever works for what I'm saying I guess. Thanks for giving it another spin and finding a little more to like in it though, things like that make it a little more worthwhile for us
