The classic phrase that sends chills down my spine "compared to other MMOs" Why can't they make something like mass effect but with more people, it's beyond me. I mean, why we can't have a decent fighting system with real collisions like all other games in existence, and why do they fill all the dead times with stupid shit like "scratching monkeys buts" for xp. If they want my money, fill that time spent worth while. I know it's obvious what i've said, but god damn it i want a real game but online. Not facebook with 3d characters. If threw in my mouth when i've heard of the Pandaria reveal in Wow. I knew then that the genre is going in exactly the opposite direction i hoped it will go. It's becoming more and more like Farmville.
Agreed. The problem I suppose is that the world is very dynamic in games that you are describing, and it can't be dynamic for everyone all the time. That is in part the problem. Also is the fact that these games have to be long as fuck and the quests have to suck a bit it seems. Sure its possible to do it right, but to make a massive world with all of that I think would require pretty intense resources. Mmmm MMO Mass Effect. Pray to whatever gods you have
I know you're right about the problem with content for everyone. But at the moment MMOs are created only for the earning factor of the equation and not for making this great amazing world people wanted for ages. Until that formula doesn't die off, we wont have a decent online game at that scale. I'm ok with having a subscription but they should give something like DLCs for other games, not sending me on boar chasing.
This game pretty much is exactly what you described(Mass Effect MMO except with a Star Wars bend). But since you're just ranting for ranting's sake, please continue. I've got a 16 Powertech and a 34 Marauder. Made the BH on another server to play with coworkers, but so far no one's been on. Waiting on my online friend to catch up to the Warrior.
Would be interesting to see an innovative MMO that does not follow the formula at all, much like many recent "indie" games that are innovative and that have succeeded. Would be interesting to see an MMO in which higher level players make quests for lower level characters and reward them and such.
Guild Wars 2 sounds like it will be fairly innovative, it won't feature any quests at all but focus purely on dynamic content requiring players to explore the world to find out where they can help someone and progress. I've been playing SWTOR a bit, not as much as I'd like, I have a level 13 powertech, once I get him to level 20 I'll probably role a new player, probably a Jedi.
While they haven't completely moved past the "go kill 10 boars" mindset, they definitely have improved on it. Every class has its own story that spans the whole game and that will take I would say about a third of the time you'll spend leveling up. Also, quest givers are no longer (at least less) like mobile bounty boards, as you get to converse with them in order to get the quest and learn their backstory, a lot of which have different outcome based on your choices. You can tell that a lot of writing had to be done for the game. The voice acting is mostly decent from what I've played so far.
I'm a StarWars nerd and a MassEffect fan or SF RPGs in general, but it says a lot about the Old Republic if i'm not even going to touch it. I've been following this game since it was announced, and i'm truly disappointed. Am i the only one that after watching so many videos of this game, felt like it wasn't StarWars? For me it doesn't feel like it. It's so far from Jedi Academy, or Force Unleashed in terms of atmosphere, i can't view it as something SW related. The promotional rendered videos and intro animations make up most of that connection with the SW universe.
Cool. So your incorrect assumptions based on alpha/beta conjectures trumps first hand playing. Nice to know. Again, I've already addressed its lack of Star Warsyness, as it really feels more like a ME2 mod. Beyond that, it does offer a compelling story and an incredibly fun game.. but hey, what do I know? I mean, I'm just playing the damn thing. Not like I'd know or anything.
Dude, why are you so butthurt about it? In my opinion being a gamer for 20 years now, i think i can make a fair judgement of what a game is, based on hours of gameplay videos and from learning a lot about the game mechanics. Stop being such a bitch with all that "I'm just playing the damn thing. Not like I'd know or anything". Based on that logic, me working at a gamestudio entitles me to a better understanding of games, doesn't it? But knowing that there are tons of experienced gamers out there, i can't be that arrogant. And no, it doesn't feel anything like ME2. Yes it's in space, but the whole shitty no-collision fighting MMO crap and all those bullshit classes so they can have a bounty hunter really fight a Jedi, makes it far from a compelling game. If you like it, it's not like everybody's retarded. It's not sufficient for me. That's it.
And yes, it looks like the best MMO on the marker right now, but it's still crap because of the whole formula. Even with all the story and dialogue they didn't digress enough form WoW. Great for immersion, but that's not gameplay.
Lvl 32, still loving the game. Definitely a lot of complaints about the UI though. I hope either addons are allowed soon or there is more customization added.
Cool. Still making great money no doubt. Wonder if/when revenues will outweigh development costs. Probably already has, I suppose, easily, if over a million people bought the 60$ game.
Seeing as it had production costs between $150 million and $200 million it will need quite a lot of long subscriptions to break even
Well if two or three million people bought the game that is like 120-180 million, and if one million people pay 235$ for a year of subscription, that easily leads to profit, although maybe not much if you deduct costs and shit
The fact that John Ricitello pretty much threw the game under the bus during yesterday's conference calls, is pretty telling. This game has been far from a financial success (or even profit I would say) and now that Tera, Guild Wars 2 and Diablo 3 are coming out, the game is pretty much destined to lose much of its subscribers, and thus, fail in the long term. You really think EA gets 100 % of a 60 dollars purchase? Come on, son.
Looking at what they had to work with holistically (material, technology, and lessons learned/ignored from other popular MMORPGs), this could go down as one of the biggest fails of all time.
I don't think it'll ever be considered a financial success, especially when faced with the competition of GW2, Tera and Diablo 3. They've said they need 500k subcribers a month to just maintain operational costs. And the way the game has been designed (copy WoW, but still lacking in some contemporary MMO areas of standards), I don't see how it's going to attract people, barring the SW license, and the end-game is supposedly dog shit for anyone interested in a proper MMO. I don't even see how EA/Bioware are going to sustain a fucking 15$ subscription fee, when almost all of the competition is F2P. It's pretty crazy to charge that much, when everyone else is offering free subscriptions. I might not be a massive failure yet, but it certainly is a failure, both creatively (lack of originality) and financially (so far).
