Official Cigar Appreciation Thread

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  1. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    in this thread, express your love for this fine pastime.

    post experiences, pictures, wish list...anything of relevance.

    do not post if you have nothing positive to say. i don't want to hear about how "bad" they are for you, or how you hate the way they smell.



    i don't get to smoke nearly as often as i'd like to, since i'm married and all now, but i suppose it makes the times i can all the more treasured.

    i just ordered 50 cigars today, because i'm getting really low on supply. my humidor is filled with nothing but my "top shelf" smokes, and i don't want to smoke the best all the time...especially when some of those can't be bought any more.

    today i ordered a bundle of Punch and Hoya robusto 2nds, $30 for 25.

    i also got 25 Oliveros coronas for $20.

    both of these are smaller sizes, because i find i rarely have enough time for a longer smoke, and there will probably be more opportunities to smoke a 45 minute to an hour cigar as opposed to an hour and a half to two hours.

    i still need to get some more variety, but those will at least fill up my little humidor.
  2. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    I'm strictly a pipe guy in the wintertime, but I really enjoy a cigar and a cold one while listening to a ballgame or reading a book on the deck in the summer.

    I like Padron's standard line for a standard smoke. Their 1964 series is absolutely outstanding. I haven't had the 1928, but one of my good pals and one of my smoking buddies both love them.

    I've had the non-Cuban Cohibas, and they don't really impress me much.

    One little unknown gem in the cigar world is Illusione. I've had two of their cigars and they were both outstanding.

    Right now all I've got in my humidor is a pair of Padron 3000s. My tobacco cellar for pipe stuff is chock full of some outstanding stuff. I think smoking a pipe is a lot more sensible cost-wise. I've got quite a few nice pipes that I didn't pay too much money for. If you like a cigar, try a pipe sometime. It's certainly got a tougher learning curve, and is really finicky, but once you get it more or less under control, I think the variety in pipe tobacco combined with the $.50 per hour smoking cost is really worth it.

    That said, on a hot summer day, nothing but nothing tastes like a good cigar. They really are one of the pinnacles of human achievement.
  3. Bear_San You're gonna love my nuts

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    When I smoked, I would buy cigars every once in a while, but I never really found any that I liked.
  4. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    i own several meerschaum pipes, and yeah they're finicky and annoying sometimes, but still very enjoyable.

    i've been smoking pipes a lot more often these dys, because the places i go where i can smoke are kinda on the smallish side, and cigar smoke irritates some people. so being the accommodating fellow that i am, i've switched to pipes. no one has a problem with pipe smoke. also, my wife isn't bothered and in fact enjoys the smell, so i don't have to immeditately take a shower upon returning home, which is nice.

    but i will forever be a cigar guy. <3

    i've never had the Padron's, the cost is ridiculous where i am. like $12+ for the itty bittty 1964. :\

    i have several cuban Cohiba's in my humidor, and the ones i've smoked have been quite excellent.

    and i must say, there is absolutely nothing worse to a cigar lover than discovering mold in your box. fuuuuuuuuuuuck! the pair of Fuente Fuente Opus X's i have got too close to the humidi-pack and had sprouted. after nearly having a heart attack i administered some quick medical action (wiping them off with a slightly moist paper towel). after careful monitoring, they appear to be alright.
  5. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    there are hundreds of types and brands.

    don't give up too quickly. ;)
  6. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    I'm sitting in Iwan Ries' smoking lounge smoking a CAO Soprano. More later.
  7. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    fixed. ;)

    those are damn good. i've smoked several. :tup

    i just bought some monstrosities.

    7.1" by 58 ring gauge Padilla Achilles. :eek

    i'll try to get a picture when i smoke one this weekend.
  8. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    unfortunately i didn't get any pictures, but those things were freaking great.

    nice and easy draw, very even burning.

    and for such a monster of a cigar, that's quite an accomplishment.

    took me a little over two and a half hours to smoke...almost burned my fingers.:D

    EDIT: but here's some general smoking pictures from the night.

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    my dad and bro smoking their pipes.


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    all three of us. :)
  9. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    the sister of one of my friends recently went out of the country, and brought him a little gift set of Cohiba Esplendidos torpedoes.

    they were a bit dried out, so he gave them to me to stick in my humidor for a couple weeks to try and remedy the situation.

    we're going to an awesome local restaurant tonight for their awesome happy hour specials, and to enjoy this fine smoke.

    i've smoked several of these before, and actually still have a couple of my own in my box that i brought back from my honeymoon.

    i'm very excited, these things are gorgeous.
  10. swidge breaking ncaa rules

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    I really enjoy Macanudo (sp?), Romeo y Julieta and a couple other random light/medium cigars I've tried. I would probably smoke a lot more if there was a store around my campus but there isn't. Are there any good online sources?
  11. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    behold, the mecca of cigar smokers everywhere...

    www.cigarsinternational.com
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    Smoking these a lot this semester with my roommate, trying different things. We were thinking about getting a package deal of some sort (100 cigars, humidor and cutter for $100 or something). He'd pay most of it, as he'd give much of them out to his close friends, but he was going to keep some in a humidor over the summer for next year (we're rooming again) and send some to me at home. We're very inexperienced, so I'm looking for advice. Here's what we were looking at:

    http://www.thompsoncigar.com/catalo...oryId=8414&categoryId=8415&subCategoryId=8415
  13. Lupo It's always Lupo!

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    I'm attracted to this cigar smoking world. i saw prae talking about it in the post your picture thread, so i went and bought a romeo y julieta, wich cost around 8 usd. i enjoyed it but i'd like to know how to smoke it properly. what's the ritual behind cigar smoking??
  14. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    first off, www.cigarsinternational.com spanks thompson in almost every way.

    you might be getting 100 cigars, but their quality is QUESTIONABLE.

    if quantity over quality is what you're going for, then by all means. since you're pretty new to cigars, you'll most likely still enjoy the shit out of them.

    but when your palette is a bit more refined, check out some of these killer deals.

    http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=SP-CIEG13&cat=161

    http://www.cigarsinternational.com/proddisp.asp?item=CS-N7A&stext=nestor

    http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=CB-IZA5540-B&cat=145

    just to name a few.
  15. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    first off, welcome to the wonderful world of cigars. :D

    here's a guide i wrote in another thread a long time ago.

    hope this helps. :)

  16. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    ok, so i'm running really low n my bargain smokes, and have been dipping my hand further into the candy jar of late, so to speak.

    this weekend i smoked a monster 7" by 58" Padilla Achilles salomon, and earlier in the week i had one of my remaining Padilla 8 & 11 robustos.

    they only made 5000 of the latter. :o

    i'm torn as to how i should spend the $40 i just came in to...25 more every-day smokes...or Pokemon Platinum...>.<

    arg!
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    You will play pokemon for more than 25 days.
  18. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    I'm going to the Chicagoland International Pipe and Tobacciana Show this Saturday. My third year. It's a ton of fun. Largest pipe and tobacco show in the world. Carvers from every inhabited continent come and sell their stuff. There are discounts to be had and haggling to be done.
  19. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    i don't smoke every day. ;)

    those cigars would last me for at least a couple months!

    haven't bought either yet.

    broke as fuck. T_T

    that sounds like a fucking blast.

    have fun man. :)





    and i just want to make you all aware of this fucking amazing deal running at CI this week.

    that cigar is fantastic, and if i had the money i'd do it in a heartbeat. (arms)
  20. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    The pipe show was great. Smoked a pipe and talked with a couple of luminaries in the industry including Lars Ivarsson, who is part of one of the most talented pipe making families there is. Bought a couple of things, including a tiny unsmoked Genod from around 1900, and a tin of Raven's Wing tobacco for $10 that I could sell on eBay right now for $90 or so.
  21. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    that's awesome Eric.


    i just got a new shipment of cigars today, my first order in awhile!

    i got 25 of those seconds again, such an amazing smoke for the price.

    and then to get free shipping i got the Joe's Deal of the day, which was 10 Gurka Grand Envoy's.

    that's 35 great cigars for 60$.

    fantastic. xD
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    Gonna be buying some end of finals cigars. I think I want to try something heavier. I usually smoke light-medium. Any recommendations?
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    i heard swisher sweets are good.
  24. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    try these: LEGENDS: Perdoma.

    excellent medium/full bodied cigar for just a tad over $2 a pop.

    and these bad boys are also excellent: Nestor Reserve Maduro

    very tasty, and it got an astounding 93 rating...and getting 25 of these 6.5" x 54 beauties for $2 each is nothing short of miraculous.

    and then there's this one: Padilla Obsidian

    this might very well be my favorite cigar ever. a little bit more at $3 a stick, but honestly, this would easily be $8-$12 in a retail shop...if you could get them in a retail shop. which i'm pretty sure you can't.


    let me know what you end up picking!
  25. Lupo It's always Lupo!

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    Since my birthday was last week i decided to give myself a little luxury, so i went and bought a pair of cohiba esplendidos, at 4 bucks a piece and smoked one of them on my house. i'm afraid i lighted it wrong, because it tasted bad and my friends said it smelled awful. the day after i smoked the second one, this time i lighted it correctly since i enjoyed the taste a lot, and it wasn't smelling bad. A very good smoke on my novice standards, i truly realized that i love smoking cigars. if only i had more money...
  26. Lupo It's always Lupo!

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  27. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    holy shit i hate you. :|

    the Espledido is a fantastic cigar.

    when i was in Jamaica on my honeymoon, i paid $20 a piece for them, and still have a couple in my humidor.

    it was the cigar of the year a few years back too.

    :yay
  28. Lupo It's always Lupo!

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    dammit i should buy more of them before they run out then. my only complaint is that they were a bit dry perhaps because they weren't in an humidor. The good thing is that cigars aren't common for the population of the town i live in (around 70,000 habitants) so i guess that's the reason the cigars were that cheap. You should come by and get some ! :P i wish i lived in the states so i could order cigars from that website you reccomend...
  29. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    they don't deliver to Mexico?

    that sucks. :(

    yeah that was probably the problem you ran in to with those, that they were under-humidified.

    the great thing about cigars is, you can bring them back into smoking territory with some time in a well managed humidor.
  30. swidge breaking ncaa rules

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    So I got a Torano and a Perdomo. I already smoked the Torano but here's a picture of the Perdomo.

    The Torano was excellent :D

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  31. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    well i just had one of the most enjoyable evenings i've had in quite some time.

    the wife is at the beach for a few days, so i'm home alone.

    i decided to treat myself to a "trophy case" cigar tonight, paired with a strong beer, a good book, and good music.

    i was going to go for a Tornao 2004 Tribute, but while going through my humidor, i made a bone-chilling discovery...a few of my other top shelf cigars were sporting fuzzy mold on their foot.

    this is just about the worst thing you can ever find. however, there's no way i'm throwing out 3 $20+ cigars just like that. the two Cohiba Esplindidos (yes, they're cubans), i was able to gently and carefully wipe away the fuzz with a slightly damp paper towel. i'll be watching them closely to make sure it doesn't re-appear.

    the third cigar was worse off than those, so i made the decision to try and salvage it for the evening smoke. it was a monstrous Gurkha Genghis Khan, 7" long with a ring gauge of 52. i decided to try cutting the foot about an inch up the cigar, since the fuzzies seemed to just be sitting on the very end.

    it worked like a charm. my cutter stuck, so i didn't get the cleanest cut in the world, but with careful ash management, it was exquisite all the way to about the last inch and a half, when it started to get too hot and turned bitter. after going on five years in my humidor, it was an even better smoke than when they first came out.

    for the beer, i chose Guiness Extra Stout, poured into a chilled glass. the stronger the beer, the better it goes with a cigar. the smokiness compliments the bitterness really well.

    for the book, i landed on Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. been meaning to read it for...forever. in the two hours it took me to finish the cigar, i got about half-way through it. thoroughly enjoying it too.

    for the music, i started out with Sunn 0))) & Boris: Altar, and got through about half of William Basinski: Disintegration Loops. excellent, excellent mood music.

    all this took place on my third story porch, with soft lighting and mild weather.

    it was beyond satisfying.

    i am very happy right now. :)
  32. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    Sounds like a perfect night. I just had a La Flor Dominicana (is that right?), Churchillish in size. Pretty alright. It was a present from a pal who owed me a cigar.
  33. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    fix'd. ;)

    was it the Triple Ligero chisletip? those are fucking amazing.

    and if he owed you, it wasn't a gift now was it?
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    Right, there's some things I need to get cleared up:

    1. What is a humidor? What does it do? What benefit does it give, where can I get one, how much, etc?

    2. You're saying do NOT draw in while lighting it, yes?

    3. What is actually the problem behind taking the smoke back while smoking? I'm aware it's commonly said not to, but I thought there something like "take back one in three tokes"?

    4. If the cigar goes out, you just relight it as normal, yeah? See following story for my worries about this. Also, what if you want to smoke half of a cigar at one point, can you put it out and save the other half for later? What is the procedure for this?


    I've been smoking cigars for the last couple of months. I don't smoke cigs, as I hate them, and as I'm going to Uni for next year for Music, with singing is my performance instrument, I really can't afford to smoke them. However, I love smoking in general, it relaxes me. After trying and enjoying everything from pipes to green to shisha, I figured while in Portugal I'd get some cigars.

    So in Portugal I got 5 Vasco Da Gama's for 5 Euro's. I have no idea if these are well regarded or anything - they were the only ones I could find.

    Now: I smoked one of them at this music festival I was at while there. I really fucking enjoyed it, however, about halfway through, it went completely out. I relit it, and it tasted fucking awful for the second half of it, and I haven't had another one since, due to not wanting to risk fucking up. I'll try again soon though with the advice given in this thread.

    Anyway, while I haven't smoked any more of these, I did pick up some super skanky deal while in Dubai airport on my way to Hong Kong last month.

    I got 50! Panter Senoritas Rood for about 5 dollars-ish. These are quite small things, more like cigarillos, but they were cheap so I though, why not.

    As I'm no expert, I can receive about enough enjoyment from these as a more experience smoker would from a much better cigar. I figure I may as well smoke these cheap things while I'm still inexperienced and know no better. Oh, and I think I light them right about 75% of the time, sometimes they taste awful (like two nights ago, it was my 18th night out and I was wasted (my bad for having had a 90%! shot bought for me, along with everything else. Some Irish Potato Vodka or something, called Poteen. It was fucking gorgeous though), and I though "I'll have a cigar" - terrible idea. I was so fucking sick, which I never am from just drinking. Bloody shit cigars).


    So, any opinions regarding this stuff? What should I keep in mind for future? Should I throw out these shitheaps and go for something a little better?
    What should I get at my level?

    Lots of questions. Cheers =]
  35. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    a humidor is a special storage box for cigars. it's made out of either spanish cedar or mahogany, because these woods have special absorbency and heating properties, optimal for keeping your cigars in perfect conditions.

    which is roughly 70% humidity and 70 degrees. some people like their cigars slightly drier than that, and you can just adjust it to your needs. i like 68/68 oersonally, but anywhere from 64-72 is fine. less than that and your cigars will start to get crackly and burn hot and uneven, higher humidity than that and your cigars will be too damp and be a bitch to keep lit.

    you should NEVER have your humidor hotter than 75. 78 is when the tobacco beetle eggs (if present) will hatch and you can kiss your stash goodbye.

    you also need to use distilled water, tap water or drinking water has impurities in it, and will cause your cigars to mold.

    it's a bit of a challenge during the winter months, but you just have to watch it closely and keep refilling the water.

    you can get them in any size, from 5 to 5000. whatever you need. i'd suggest getting one to hold about 25 cigars at first, and then see how your smoking matches up with that.

    you can get a fully stocked one for about $80, or empty for $25 or so. invest in a digital hygrometer aswell, completely worth the $20 or so.

    no, you can. just use long slow draws, don't puff on it like a cigarette. that will get the cigar too hot, and will activate all the tars and nasty shit, and turn the cigar bitter.

    it's completely unfiltered smoke for one, and there's roughly the tobacco and nicotine content of an entire pack of cigarettes in a normal size cigar. it's extremely hard on your lungs, and a really, really bad idea.

    smoking cigars is not to get a buzz, it's for the relaxing atmosphere and the taste.

    if it goes out for more than a few minutes, it's done. it will be bitter and turn to charcoal. once smoke has passed through the cigar, it can not be saved for later. if you don't have time to smoke it, then wait until later. it's not something to be rushed.

    i'm not familiar with those.
    cheap cigars are great for learning technique without worrying about fucking it up. it also allows you to be the hero of the group when you can provide smokes for everyone. cigar smoking is a very social hobby, the more the merrier.

    get comfortable with your technique and developed your palette a bit, then move on to stronger and darker, find what you like.

    you can get amazing deals on awesome cigars on the internet. if you're in the US anyway.

    www.cigarsinternational.com is the cigar-lovers utopia.
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    1. Okay, thanks for the humidor info. I'd kind of assumed that's what it was, but good information. I'll think about getting one of them in future when I'm more experienced and more likely to need one.

    2. Aight, I'm off to a field party tonight so I'll try lighting it properly.

    3. Well that explains why I was throwing up. 90% shots + drunkenly inhaling the smoke of most of a cigar? Yeah, VERY bad idea it seems...

    4. Okay, I'd always assumed you could just sort of, pause button them. Very useful info!

    5. Yeah, that site does look amazing. I don't live in the US, though I do have loads of family over there due to my mum being from texas and we go over around a couple of times a year, so I could feasibly order them to my sisters house or something sometime.

    Any recommendations of some sort of starter-sampler pack from there?

    Cheers bruv.
  37. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    i'm always happy to help. :)

    this is probably one of the best introductory deals you could buy.

    i can steer you in the direction of some single-brand deals that are amazing (like 20 cigar packs), but that is such a great selection for someone who doesn't really know what they like yet.

    be advised that the darker the cigar, the stronger it is.

    though it looks like they've taken out some of the strronger ones they used to offer.


    hit me up with any other questions you might have, and i believe i posted an in-depth guide to lighting and smoking properly earlier in the thread, so be sure and do your research. ;)

    happy smoking!
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    Aye, that guide was mint. Makes things a lot better, and also makes me sound well cool when I regurgitate all this knowledge to curious people.

    Field party went very well. Apart from the fact that my cigar BROKE IN HALF as I was lighting it, it was an amazing smoke, and lasted the best part of an hour (once it got to the point where it had snapped it started to taste terrible - I figure there's some science to this? almost like the whole section of the cigar had turned to dregs or something. Most of it was fine though, thank god). I had a big bottle of Peroni with it, which while not prime, was indeed suitable enough.

    I'm getting so into this.

    That pack does look really good - I just realised though, that in America the legal age is 21 isn't it? While in England everything is 18 (fuck yeah). This means I probably won't be able to order it with my card online, which screws up every plan. I'll need a cutter for that too, but that's not much of a problem and something I'll blatantly need to invest in sooner or later anyway.

    I found this site which appears to be a UK equivalent of CI:
    http://www.simplycigars.co.uk/

    and this 'recommended' starter pack:

    http://www.simplycigars.co.uk/beginners-sampler-pack-best-seller-p-524.html

    and:

    http://www.simplycigars.co.uk/beginners-sampler-new-p-1172.html

    While these do seem to give a broad range of smokes, they are also expensive packs for a beginner, especially the latter due to the fact it doesn't even come with a cutter, humidor bag, etc.

    I'm not sure if that kind of hefty price is just this site, or UK prices in general. It's certainly the most professional UK site I've seen, though http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/index.php does show promise too, such as:
    http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/2009-round-world-sampler-p-4652.html

    This is hard work, and I only just realised it's 1 am now and I haven't slept properly (e.g. for more than 4 hours and not in a cold tent in a field) in about 4 nights and I'm shattered, so I'll continue this investigation tomorrow under less apoplexable conditions.
  39. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    holy shit. those sampler packs are fucking PRICEY. D:

    the legal smoking age in the US is 18, so you're good. :)

    i would definitely recommend something else for a beginner. i mean,those are great cigars, but something that expensive needs to wait until you know what the quark is up with your palette. ;)
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    Ah really? I assumed it was 21, because to enter that competition on the CI site you had to be 21.

    Yeah, it seems that all the UK prices I've found so far have been way too fancy and expensive for my purposes. The CI site is definitely my best bet, but then I'm not sure how expensive shipping will be in addition. Urgh...

    That $80 pack you linked to is about £50, which including the humidor is actually an unreal price compared to the UK sites.
  41. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    just click yes and you'll be fine. ;)

    i'm telling you man, the guy that runs CI is just insane...(arms)
  42. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    smoked a Padilla 8&11 the other night.

    they only made 5000 of them originally.

    this one was from a later release, and has been simmering in my box for probably 2 years, and it was superb.

    i still have 3 or 4 left too.

    2 of them are from the original 2004 batch of 5000, and have been in there since then.

    probably won't smoke those for another decade or so. :hat
  43. Jikkir bur

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    Right, so if you're in a situation where you're FORCED to use a lighter or zippo of some kind, is there a way to light it without overheating it?

    Say, if you were to hold the cigar like an inch above the flame would that do?
  44. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    Sure. Just do what pipe smokers do: hold the flame so that it doesn't touch the tobacco unless you're drawing. If you're using a Zippo and it has their new low odor fuel, it shouldn't be too noticeable. I always let mine burn for a few seconds before I light anything with it.

    Personally, I prefer to light my pipes and cigars with a match, but in the case of a pipe, where if you're smoking it right (i.e. on the brink of going out) you might have to relight five times, it's too much of a hassle. I use a lighter and most pipe smokers do, too. With a cigar it's easier to put up with the hassle of a match because you usually only have to light it once. But I have no real qualms about lighting anything with a Zippo with their new fuel.
  45. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    yeah you want to be careful not to scorch it, so don't hold the flame right on the cigar.

    it'll take a few times to get the hang of it.
  46. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    going to be puffing on a Cuban Cohiba Esplindido church hill tomorrow during the Jags game.

    it's going to be amazing. <3
  47. tjg92 .

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    My dad is a serious pipe smoker and he has a bunch of pipes. I've read a lot about pipe smoking on the internet but I never realized that my dad was actually so experienced, because he never really smokes in front of me, but I've talked to him about it a couple of times recently and it's really cool. I think when I turn 18 I'll go to a tobacconist with him, should be pretty fun.
  48. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    so awesome. :)

    i smoked my pipe a bit tonight, but the tobacco was too damp or something, because it was a bitch to keep lit and i kept sucking loose tobacco. so i said fuck it and drove home to graba cigar.

    smoked a cuban Montecristo #2, which is considered one of the top cubans to try, rated 95 by Cigar Afficianado, and has been top 10 for them several times.

    needless to say, it was fantastic. :D
  49. Eric Cioe Junior Member

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    Prae: have you ever smoked an Illusione? They're a really great stick. I've had an MK, a Holy Lance, and one other. I was looking for a cigar to smoke last week at Iwan Ries and was planning on listening to Parsifal, and I saw "Holy Lance" and had to get it. It was great.
  50. Praemorior tautological redundancy

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    i've not had one, i'll keep my eye out though.