Joe you're an expert on these things, I preordered my 3DS at a Gamestop, do I have to go at midnight to get it? And if so, do I have to be ahead in line or else they sell it to someone else? I've never done this before
Well it will depend on your spot in the pre-order queue, and the number that your Gamestop gets in for the first shipment. Your receipt may have info on what preorder priority you have, and then the Gamestop will know how many they are getting closer to launch. Apart from that Gamestop usually holds reserves for 48 hours following launch, but that's software. I can't remember the last time I reserved hardware at a Gamestop. It may be a 24 hour hold. I doubt you'll need to be there at midnight, and I honestly doubt they'll have a midnight launch. GS generally only holds midinight launches mon into tues. Since Nintendo shit comes out on Sundays, usually they'll just open early on that Sunday.
I was the second person to preorder it, I didn't think that would matter though. So instead of staying up late, I'll have to get up early? That's bullshit.
No no, it will probably be held for 48 hours after launch. just saunter on in there past all the people with disappointed faces asking if they have any for sale to the public, grab your 3DS and be all "problem, poor kids?"
They've got to be super careful over here. In the states, Nintendo have been successful forever, if not as super successful as they've been in the DS/Wii/NES years. Over here they completely bombed during those down times. It was near impossible to find gamecube games sometimes.
I reserved some more games for this biatch today, and the dude at Gamestop printed the entire list of games so far for me. Looks like Dead or Alive was delayed until May, but Samurai Warriors is coming out March 15th. I'll be picking up SSF4 and Pilotwings at launch, and Ridge Racer a couple days after.
I'll be getting Steel Diver as soon as I can. Hopefully it's a launch game in NA. Not holding my breath though
Looks like it is according to my list. This list also has all of the Nintendo hits like Mario Kart, Kid Icarus and OoT coming out on 6/2/11 though. If that is the case, what a glorious fucking day.
Yeah, aint happening. Those are placeholders. At this point most of those titles are all done and are probably about to start production of carts, but Nintendo is being very deliberate in their withholding and spacing out of 1st party stuff this year, both for the benefit of 3rd parties, and to keep the good times rolling.
Ocarina of Time for 3DS is one of the lamest remakes I've ever seen. Instead of taking this opportunity to make something really special and from the ground up, they slightly altered the art direction so that they could add more polygons and left everything else intact. This is a fucking fiasco.
what exactly would you like to see to make it "really special"? also there are other features, both inherent to the dual screen display and the system's capabilities that you've left out. just fyi
a ground up remake would be cool, a different direction with the art would be cool. changing the game would be cool. as is its just the same game with a few tacked on changes, square enix would be proud.
I am kinda disappointed that it's the same game with new graphics, I was hoping it would have all new dungeons or something.
Nintendo seems to take full advantage of the fact that simple rehashes of their most popular games will make them millions of dollars no matter what, and they put minimal effort into them as a result. I'll let it slide though, since they are bringing a reboot of Kid Icarus to the system from the ground up, as well as a new Mario Kart.
To be fair, I lack the imagination of Nintendo designers to remake OoT and make it something worthy, but I guess what I'm saying is that any effort on the title would've been appreciated. It's Zelda's 25th anniversary, after all, and OoT is regarded by many as bring the best in the series. As for the features I left out, they are inherent to the system, like you said, so it's a bit unfair to use it its defense, since practically every game coming to 3DS will have 3D visuals, while many will use the touchscreen. I remember reading an Aonuma (I did not spell this correctly) interview where he talked about how the game is dated and how he would've liked the interface to be much more streamlined, using the constant wearing of the Iron Boots in the Water Temple as an example. As far as we've seen, the dungeons remain unchanged, which does nothing to address the fact that the game is pretty damn dated and boring to play through after finishing games like Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and even Majora's Mask. So yeah, adding a few bells and whistles will not diverge my attention to the fact that I've finished the game countless times already, and that it's inferior in gameplay design to those that came later.
It's not like there won't be a brand new Zelda title for the system though. It might be at least a year off from launch, but you know there will be one. I think they just wanted to hit the ground running with as many recognizable titles as possible early on, even if they are just slightly updated ports. Joe did the Nintendo World store get any demo units yet? The FUCK is taking so long GODDAMN IT
I'm very much looking forward to it, because I finally started playing it for the first time last year, then my wii's disc drive died, and I could have got it for VC, but I'm not playing the same few hours again straight away fuck you! So I think it's been long enough I will play a 3ds ocarina zelda. I hope a game comes out for 3ds called Ball Mouth: Get My Balls In Your Mouth Asshole 3D
It's gonna be a little over a year on March 27th that Nintendo first informally announced the 3DS. So they announced it a full year before they were planning on launching it. What assholes. I just need to get my eyes on that fucking screen and see if it's really as magical as it's being cracked up to be. I somehow think it is.
Id much rather see a remake of a link to the past than oot, because its clearly the better classic zelda game. maybe a complete visual overhaul, mixing up the dungeons, different locations for a lot of the items etc. honestly i just want to be able to play it without knowing where everything is again
couple things, people would be UP IN ARMS raising so much hell if Nintendo fucked around with OoT in any way shape or form, are you guys fucking crazy? they kept the art style very faithful while up resing things and adding additional polys, streamlined the menus, 3d depth of field, and added in the neat option to use the systems gyroscopes to move the camera in first person, or aim various weapons. Master Quest will probably be in there too. Also don't forget that for MANY young people, OoT 3DS will very likely be their first time ever playing the game, and I don't fully agree with your assessment of Ocarina's design foundation. Other larger scale 3D remakes will have a bit more in terms of added content, like Star Fox 64 3DS's online multi for example, and time trial jump-to-stage modes, and boss-rush mode. also K_G, I would wager good money that ALttP will come out under the "3D Classics" downloadable umbrella with added 3d depth of field (seperatre from the 3DS virtual console). I played and beat that game for the 4th time back when it hit the Wii VC, didn't collect all items though. Bout ready to play through my fav all-time game again in an interesting new coat of paint. Death Mountain will be interesting with depth of field. Matter of fact most of that game's dungeons will be interesting naf, no demo units at the NWS yet, but I'll know as soon as they are in. I'm expect them at some point during the last week of Feb. There's going to be a media blitz for about 3 weeks, and then North America will have about 1.5 million of em for the first few weeks
This is a fine point, and one I won't argue with. However, the game's puzzles still remain somewhat simple compared to those of the games that came after, but since this "remake" is intended as an introduction to new players (how else could you justify it?), I guess it won't really matter, given its target audience. Something that really bothers me, though, is that the execution for Nintendo's approach to remaking the game is not very good. For instance, The new character models, lighting effects, and some textures look appropriately detailed, but the geometry on many environment still retains its N64 roots, which is pretty baffling to me and makes the game seem rushed, not to mention how the graphics look absolutely inconsistent.
I for one think OoT is incredibly dated and is no where near as perfect as the fanboys think, not even when it came out. Im not really faulting the game for it, it was after all the first 3d zelda and was a remarkable achievement in that regard, but it could definitely be improved in many ways. Ive had this butting of heads with a lot of the games big fans before though, and I understand that for a lot of people it was the first zelda they played and for a large number of people here and on the internet in general a big moment in their childhood gaming. I just think if people took off those rose colored glasses they wouldnt be as impressed as they were.
Thing is though, those circumstances are part of what make the game so incredible. Sure, it's dated now, but it wasn't when it came out. Public reaction was ecstatic, and for good reason. No other console adventure 3D game came even close to achieving half of the stuff OoT did. To be honest, I wanted Nintendo to mix up the game not solely because it's dated, but also because I've played it so many times that I know pretty damn well, like most of its fans probably do.
Zelda OOT defined for me what a game is supposed to be, and I would be delighted to share all my reasons why, but I think Jeff Gerstmann, formerly of Gamespot, says it better. Yes, my reasons largely tie to nostalgia, but I lived through its era in gaming, and OOT was the example and benchmark during (I think) the interactive entertainment industry's most fruitful years. Yes, opinion is subjective, but at least read the review and know that my reminiscence has cause me to shed a single tear. It's been over 12 years, if I'm not mistaken. For your reference... Jeff Gerstmann's review dated November 23, 1998 Let me draw your attention to part of the last paragraph: "This is the masterpiece that people will still be talking about ten years down the road. " It's been over 12 years, btw.
I just don't see it really, I think 3d gaming has definitely gotten much better than OoT over the years even in the zelda series itself. Its fine to use nostalgia to say so and so is a favorite of mine, but when discussion the best games ever its a poor argument. Conversely a game like A Link to the Past came out when 2d gaming was reaching its heights and is pretty close to flawless when it comes to 2d gaming design. And people will be discussing a game like OoT 10 years later etc because its a landmark game in the transition between 2d and 3d games, and that is important. But it doesn't mean games haven't come out that do what it did better since (wind waker, okami). Speaking of Okami, id like to see an upgraded version of the sequel (which isnt out yet lol) maybe alongside a 3ds version of the orignal. Now that would be kickass, and give more attention to a game that is still overlooked even though it has a wii release.
What's the difference? If you say a game is your "favorite game" does that not make it the "best game ever" to you? I don't see how nostalgia negates the opinion of it being one of the best games ever, as that will likely be the case of any of the classic games. Super Mario 3 is dated as hell but many still consider it to be one of the greatest games ever made. Super Mario World and New Super Mario Bros. may have done the side scrolling adventure "better" but the initial experience of playing them may not have had as great an effect on the player. In 10 years, today's games may very well be "incredibly dated" as well. Does that mean they can't be considered some of the greatest games ever because the newer systems have the power to do what those games did, only better?
I wouldnt consider mario 3 to be better than mario world, or yoshi's island for that matter, but the difference between it and NSMB isnt really much to do with the advances in game design since because it relies on the classic and already established 2d gameplay of its type. When i say nostalgia is a poor argument its because its extremely colored by the experiences, age, and state of the game design world of the time. Yes OoT was a pretty important advance, but being the first to something doesnt make it the best at it. If you look at it objectively, yes it holds up decently well but it isnt above what came after it. I mean majora's mask, wind waker, and twilight princess all improved upon the formula laid down by OoT in different ways but they arent better because they didnt come first? Is the original mario brothers the best 2d sidescroller because it redefined the genre (or outright created it)? Everyone is free to say what they want when it comes to reasons for "best game ever", that doesnt mean its a good point though. People act like OoT was the citizen kane of the gaming world, but really it was just one of the first times that a 3d game really came together in gameplay it didnt really redefine gaming. Its also noteworthy that the people who get most butthurt by my opinion on this were 10 or younger when the game came out .
My two cents on the OoT debate: Gaming has come a long, LONG way since OoT was released and this is something that I truly realized just recently. But for me that doesn't take away from the initial greatness of the game. Of course it has partly to do with the fact that I lived through that time and saw firsthand what an effect the game had on players and critics. I remember when my favorite videogame magazine had a 12-pages review for it - while other games only got like 2 to 3 pages max. I also remember playing it for the first time and there truly was nothing like it at the time. I still get that sensation everytime I play it. But I doubt that this 3DS remake will capture newcomers in a way that even comes close to the original release.
agreed on that last point. thats why i was hoping for a bit of a reworking or update beyond what they are doing.
