Monsanto is the greatest threat the world has ever faced

http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/judge_sides_with_monsanto/?akid=478.380852.4r4QcR&rd=1&t=8

Judge sided with Monsanto, told farmers they cannot be immune from lawsuits from Monsanto if their farms become infected with Monsanto's product. Unless this is overruled by a higher court, it's essential the nail in the coffin for a free-market based farming economy. This is going to produce a result where Monsanto successfully replaces all existing variants of vegetables with their own patented formula. You will not be able to buy any seeds that are not owned by Monsanto, and since they own the patent for the seeds, you will have to buy them every year rather than reuse seeds produced on the farms the previous year. If you have seeds that are pure of Monsanto's patents, do not plant them, because they will inevitably be pollinated with Monsanto's stuff (bees don't discriminate), and you will get sued for having seeds with Monsanto's patent that you didn't pay for. It has already happened. Monsanto will therefore be able to charge ANY price they want for their seeds since humans cannot live without growing crops. They will have the power of life and death over the population of the entire world, controlling who can eat and who cannot.

Monsanto is certainly one of the most evil companies around. The average person knows little to nothing about Monsanto and other GMO companies; those who do often only know said companies missions (see: feed the planet - in reality we produce enough food, sadly most of it goes to waste/is not given to those in need) and rally behind the "good cause". I agree, on the surface this sounds amazing and promising, however the sad reality is its all a lie and they are a load of crap for numerous reasons.

Anyone with some logic (which unfortunately is a small percentage of our society) can quickly use the internet and realize GMOs cause way more issues than its worth and at the VERY least you have to question the method even if you don't believe all the 'conspiracies' involving GMOs. That's the big problem with society, no one takes anything of concern seriously, instead all you hear about is the death of some celebrity no one should give a shit about, etc. In reality the GMO issue and countless other should be headlines around the globe. Why should we risk our health and for that matter the future of the human race; more testing certainly needs to be done at the very least.

Luckily people are slowly waking up, Europe has banned GMO's recently and California has the chance to make all GMO food labelled, which unfortunately is about 90% of what you find in the typical American grocery store. If this happens it will likely have a cascading effect across the country. Monsanto rallied against a similar law in the early 2000s and created an ad campaign advocating against it saying it would cost the average person $500 a year to enact this labeling. That was a lie and they will likely be pushing against this new law in the coming months. If it is passed its likely many food products will revert away from GMOs as many polls have indicated American's would not buy GMO products, however most American's will continue consuming them for the time being until more laws are put in place and the average consumer can become aware of what they are actually eating. A quick search will show you the few crops that are nearly in everything you eat so if you see them on the labelling its safe to say that product contains GMOs.

Research what GMOs do to animals (mice, pigs, cows) and tell me we should be eating them. Any sane person would be disgusted and red flags would be raised. Like most news worth hearing nowadays, you won't hear this in the mainstream, you have to find it yourself do what you can to raise awareness.

A great resource to investigate further - http://www.responsibletechnology.org/

GM foods are delicious, I've been disappointed at how hard they are to find since I moved to CA.

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But you're overlooking the real problem. Humans are always going to reproduce beyond the food supply. If you use GMO to increase the food supply to India and China, it's just going to enable their populations to get even bigger to where they are once again faced with a food shortage crisis. There isn't a way to get around the fact that the earth and all its attributes are finite. As we find ways to approach closer and closer to that limit, humanity's needs will simply swell to overcome that limit.

Anyway, I don't think that his argument is really the big issue.

Strong Thomas Malthus.

It's cool when I come up with stuff completely by my own that ends up being something some famous guy is known for coming up with.

The health risks aren't even the issue, it's the monopolization of the food supply. In fact, in theory I don't have a problem with GMOs at all, just the way in which the patents are currently being protected (by judges who are probably paid off by Monsanto since I can't see any other rational reason for them to reach the conclusion they did). That's why I specifically labeled Monsanto and not GMOs in general.

Yes, but unfortunately for you, he is famous for it because he ended up being completely wrong as he underestimated....technology.

I completely agree with you about the court cases though. It's complete bullshit. We need to develop and send our own GMOs their way and sue them, citing precedence of prior court cases.

Are you saying starvation isn't currently a problem in the world?

All food requires matter. There is a finite amount of matter within the earth. Therefore it seems a pretty infallible statement that the amount of food the planet can produce is finite. Assuming an extreme hypothetical scenario where we actually manage to make use of every atom within the earth, and that the human species eventually becomes populated enough to makes use of it, do you really think people are going to just stop reproducing because they know there won't be enough food for any more people? You might argue that by then we will have technology to make use of other matter floating about the solar system, but in fact very little of it is composed of elements that are useful for food production. Carbon isn't common enough. In any event, we already have starvation now. Technology already has been proven incapable of outpacing our growing population.

Also, I looked him up, he's not regarded as wrong, just controversial.

Wait, are you making a 2nd Law of Thermo argument about food supply? Starvation is a localized issue, or else the total world population would not continue to grow as it has. Maybe we'll get to a Malthusian doomsday scenario someday, but surely not in our lifetimes. I would bet on nuclear apocalypse happening first.

why am i not surprised

uh, fuck china and india

There's also rumours floating around that Monsanto have bought Blackwater (now Academi).. So one of the most evil companies in the world now have a private army (maybe). The world is going great.

interesting article i've just found:

http://thegardenisland.com/news/loc...a1b-11e1-bca7-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1oClmGwtS

obviously at this stage it's just speculation on the part of this heacock fellow, but it's potentially relevant to the issue of GMOs and their environmental impacts.

my biggest reservation about GMOs has always been the unknown factor. sure, we can test them for all the things we know about (nutritional content, growth rate, resistance to herbicides and pests, etc), but how do we know what will happen when they're actually put into the (unfathomably complex) natural environment?

the naturally-selected (and yes, human-selected) variants have been through billions of years of "quality control". to us, we may simply be swapping out one gene for another, similar gene, but who knows how many connections that gene has with other genes, and how the resulting phenotype will change the environment that it's put into?

from my current viewpoint, i think the argument that humans have been 'genetically engineering' our food for thousands of years is misleading. the genetic mutations that we are selecting from in that case have all been naturally occurring. take carrots for example. we didn't insert a totally new gene into carrots to change them from purple to orange, it just happened naturally, and the dutch decided that it was superbly patriotic to selectively breed from the new orange varieties.

correct me if i'm wrong, but the modern approach is rather more artificial, in that we identify specific genes in the genome, and the traits with which they correlate, and chop and change them at will. see what i'm saying here?

hopefully somebody with more expertise in this field can clear up any misconceptions.

who cares about sea urchins, all they do is injure people trying to use the beach. Monsanto are heroes!

also, re: your thread title - i think monsanto is *a* threat that faces the world, but not definitively the absolute greatest. there are so many fucked up things that can (and will) happen to humanity that i think it's rather arbitrary to assign any of them the top spot. i think global overpopulation, nuclear war, depletion of resources and climate change rank at least equal with 'complete monopolization of food supply', though i admit to not devoting an enormous amount of time giving each one a weighting. i'm also pretty curious to know what the impact of the sun's reverse in polarity will be.

at any rate, i'm not convinced that one single entity could ever completely control the food supply of the entire earth. but who knows. humanity has done some pretty remarkable things, who knows what we're truly capable of! maybe the singularity will roll around and we'll all just get sucked into a great big fun computer simulation and we won't ever have to worry about food ever again :D?

Then counter-sue Monsanto for scamming people. They're forcing people to buy their product. Can't have it both ways. If people are to blame for nature doing what nature does, then Monsanto is not above the blame.

Monsanto are a scary corporation. They literally don't give a FUCK about what's fair in any sense of the word.

lol free market.

haha I know right

IMO people who think like wilcaz are scarier

Why do you hate half of America?

because I'm a eurofag, obv

It's really up to the courts to decide what's fair, and in this case they failed....massively.

inb4 Technetium

oh my lol

lol golden shower

I think that's Monsanto's slogan, actually.

bam

http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/20...ten-year-ban-on-genetically-engineered-foods/

Why do they hate America?

Because it sucks.

Frankenfood?

looks yummy!

Looks like a fine collection of anal torture implements.

I urge everyone to watch this.

strong white savior complex

My heart is facepalming.

The fact that people know about this company and what it does, and are fine with it, is enough reason for the human race to just cease to exist.

We belong to the Earth, not vice versa.

edit: Also, I will be participating in the March Against Monsanto on May 25th, at 2pm, in Hartford. It should be taking place in all capitals.

Here's the cunt

for some reason he strongly reminds me of the Joker.

And your beloved president who is supposed to save the world, SIGNED THE FUCKING BILL.

So this is basically the same formula as the indefinite detention clause in the NDAA right?

No.

send me bitcoins if you want to stop monsanto, i have a secret plan

Yeah I will enjoy my healthier foods. Thanks.