Discussion in 'Art, Culture, and Literature' started by Viz, Sep 3, 2010.
Yeah, except for "labeling under the delusion." What the fuck, did I have a stroke or something?
It's a Zack Snyder movie, it's bound to be horrible.
I don't think Zack Snyder deserves the hate. He has talent. I just think he's totally wrong for SUPERMAN.
He would've been cool on Spider-man
Superman should never have movies made about him again, worst superhero probably ever
Yeah, I've liked most of his movies, except Sucker Punch.
Well that's just your opinion. In fact that's just your post. Coming from just your computer. From just your fingers. Connected to just your brain. That was designed just for you by a just God. Amen.
I don't mind Snyder's style, especially in films like 300 and Watchmen where the overtly sexy, almost music video-esque style of slow motion action sequences helped make the lackluster source material seem more interesting.
Superman is a good example of this. I think his mythos and general backstory is so well known that people are simply tired of hearing about it. If this movie if nothing but ridiculously over the top action then I will jizz in my pants and then steal the nearest person's pants and jizz in theirs too.
Did you really just call the source material for Watchmen lacklustre?
Yeah, that's ridiculous. But on the flipside I think comicfags judge the film, and subsequently Snyder, unfairly.
If by source material I mean script, then yes.
Sorry I should have specified that I meant the script and not necessarily the comics, as I've never read them.
But honestly, they didn't even try to hide the fact that Ozymandias was the killer from the get-go. So from then on I felt like the movie was just an enjoyable action flick and not so much a mystery or anything that would necessitate any sort of investigation.
lol @ thinking the "mystery" was the point of that story at all
If you meant script then fine, I agree. It's a fairly convoluted story which is understandably difficult to translate across mediums. Well worth reading even if you're not a comicfag. There's a ton more depth and intrigue that got lost along the way, unfortunately. That said I think it's Snyder's only decent film so far, and though I haven't yet seen Sucker Punch, reports from across the board tell me I would probably hate it.
Dawn of the Dead
lol @ thinking anything
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Somehow I didn't know this was a thing.
I'm not worried about this at all, Snyder can make a good movie if the source material is good (Watchmen), and a bad one if it's bad (300), so I'll lay my hopes squarely on Nolan's writing team
I will most likely wait until this comes out on DVD and then check it out from my local library and watch about fifteen minutes before returning it, hopefully on time, so as not to incur more late fees that might bring the charges on my card over the five dollar limit, which then does not allow me to check more things out.
I can't believe a movie about Superman might be bad! That would be such a tragedy! Superman is such an interesting character with a rich background and amazing cinematic history! This movie will rape our childhoods solely because it was made now and not back then! etc.
300 was much better than Watchmen
And anything is better than 300, so...
Hmm, I had hoped the last Superman movie included Doomsday. Instead we got Superman 1 again. I wonder if I should hold my breath for this one.
If there's one thing I know about this film it's that the filmmakers don't give a fuck about Donner's films and don't want to make a movie that's tailored to make an old director from the 70s feel all warm and fuzzy.
I look for this movie to be shallow, sexy-looking, have stellar action scenes and rely on its all star cast to make up for Snyder's less-than-stellar acting directing.
If anything else it will be a completely different interpretation of Superman than anything we've ever seen before and tbh that's something that needs to happen. I was hoping for a villain other than Zod but whatever.
Zod? Oh... ok. Sigh.
lol at the notion that Superman will be one of the best, though I have high hopes because it is Snyder, and Watchmen Director's Cut is one of the best vigilante films ever made.
it's not just that
Snyder + Nolan
you just can't get any better than that
Yes you can, just Nolan is much better
Nolan just helped cast the guy they chose for Superman and is producing. He's not that involved tbh.
He's one of the story writers.
I don't have my hopes too high about it. Zack Snyder yep mostly great director with some awful moments. Nolan hasn't made a single great movie. Most of them have been in the 'hey that was kinda cool' category.
Now if someone like Fincher was on-board boners would be had.
really? a director known for thrillers and mind-fucking twists directing an action/superhero movie?
now, Zack is pretty much perfect for the job, Watchmen is by far one of the best vigilante movies ever made (not to mention the superb adaptation) and his other work (300, Sucker Punch) really doesn't make me anxious for the outcome, I know it's going to be great
Because one out of three is such a good record. The problem with Watchmen is that Snyder was just making it as close to the graphic novel as he could so he didn't really have to do any direction apart from sit there with the book during filming. Sucker Punch was so crap that it cancels out anything good he has done anyway. I'm just hoping Nolan is stamped all over this and takes away the slow-mo cameras
if you seriously think that's all he did during the filming then you don't know anything about films
Sucker Punch might have been a poor story, but the effects were pretty phenomenal
and one out of 3? 300 was seriously the best movie I saw in 2006, and Dawn of the Dead is a classic
and Superman is ALL about slow-mo cameras
Oh good you're trolling.
oh good you're retarded and know nothing about films
Nope, I just prefer films to be well written and directed and not rely on special effects, slow-mo and silly costumes. Luckily if Nolan is writing this then at least the source material should be pretty good.
Lol because there won't be any special effects or silly costumes in Batman
Zach Snyder can s my d.
I liked Dawn of the Dead.
I didn't say I didn't like them, just that a film shouldn't rely on them. Nolan's batman films are much more than that
Regardless of how you feel about his story work, you have to admit that he does have an eye for visual flair. His movies are veritable visual feasts. Film is a great medium in that great story can support poor visual work, and vice versa. the product will never be as good as having great work on both, but films can still be passable. I for one liked both Snyder films I saw.
sanchez posts are hilarious
not relying on slow-mo, special effects and costumes in a SUPER HERO movie such as superman is like not relying on explosions in a michael bay film
To a certain degree. I think he has a distinctive style (incredible amounts of slow-mo, darkly lit backgrounds etc.) that works for him and provided the writing is good enough to carry through then generally his films are passable. I enjoyed Watchmen a lot even if Snyder missed all of the satirical nature and intricacies of the novel and 300 looks great even if everything else is a bit rubbish. Sucker Punch has absolutely nothing going for it though apart from the visual effects which are good but cannot possibly make up for how boring it was.
Nolan's batman films don't and they've done ok for themselves. They play a part but they are nothing without something to back them up. The last Superman film was almost entirely held up by Kevin Spacey's performance
so Nolan's Batman is not a costume? what about The Joker? and Catwoman? how about Bane?
and they do have a lot of special effects, every explosion or free fall has visual effects to some degree, bluescreen, CGI, etc.. though the majority of the visual effects are physical (like the truck turning over, or the tumbler jumping from one building to another)
last superman movie had a lot of slow-mo effects because, you know, he's faster than a bullet and he had to show it, though that movie sucked balls
Read my post. I said they play a part and admittedly a fairly big one but without a bit more substance the film will fall flat. If that wasn't the case then Michael Bay would have been hailed as the next Hitchcock as he produces some pretty stunning visual effects. The problem is every other part of his films are terrible, hence why everything he does gets taken apart by critics.
My general opinion is that you can ruin a film with bad special effects, costume design etc. but you can't make it great.
Moved Superman/Snyder discussion to this thread as the Batman thread was getting derailed.
Nolan can switch modes like that, so why couldn't Fincher? Did you see The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo? It wasn't an action movie but it had plenty of scenes that suggest he could handle it.
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