and again, and again, and again, and again... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/13/sudan-video-of-woman-bein_n_795859.html
no your right it not whites fault in this case at all. pretty fucking deplorable in any case. although the US prison system is pretty fucking deplorable as well (not to diminish the wrongness of this horse shit)
this isn't anything new anyway, happens and has been happening for thousands of years all over the planet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/ashura-muslim-holiday_n_798206.html#s210456 Islam means peace.
it's ironic that arianna huffington runs the huffington post, because in sudan she'd be tied to a post. and, you know, whipped.
This should be required reading: http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html
In regards to point #1, it's worth pointing out that if you look at polls regarding belief in evolution conducted outside of the U.S. in Muslim countries, the results are far different. Looking at the U.S. population of Muslims is looking at a biased sample since Muslims that emigrate tend to be, on average, more secular. Also, the fact that 45% of Muslims in the U.S. believe in evolution is very bit as troubling as the fact that a similar number of non-Muslims also do not believe in it.
The results ARE far different, or you expect them to be? In other words, have you seen the same poll but for a global sample instead of a US sample, or are you just generalizing?
They ARE different, but is that even surprising? Muslim schools in Britain, for instance, pride themselves in the fact that all of their pupils don't believe in evolution because it doesn't quite jive with the Quran. These are from a Science article BTW. This second graph should be especially disheartening to Americans in particular.
Not super surprising, but I wanted to know if there were actual studies you know about. I still feel that their point is one worth making... that Islam started off with a golden age of science and knowledge and doesn't really have a history of trying to oppose scientific ideas like evolution that exceeds Christianity. But actually a lot of Muslims say THIS (now) is the dark ages of Islam when you consider where the religion has been in the past. Plus you can't really control for the country parameters well enough for these charts to mean much. For example USA doesn't just mean more "secular Muslims", but also different education systems, more open discussion of the topic, etc. So at least the USA specific studies shows results that are apples to apples.
Oh, I agree completely; Islam certainly needs to be credited for a number of contributions to mathematics and science in the past. However, algebra (for instance) doesn't in any way find itself at odds with the Quran; many newer advancements certainly do, and this is where issues arise. Again, it's not just Islam that is guilty of this. However, as far as I understand it, the Quran posits that Allah is responsible for every single aspect of the world; if it rains, it is because Allah wills it. Gravity is nothing more than the hand of Allah governing an object--Allah is personally responsible for physical laws. It is hardly surprising that such a mindset might find itself directly opposed to novel scientific concepts in a somewhat more pronounced manner than in other religions.
Just like with evolution, some people take it literally and others as a metaphor. But it's not like the Quran says "objects will fall with acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2 because it is the will of God" or anything. There were some prominent Islamic scholars like Ibn Sina (Avicenna) who were highly involved in scientific fields and very open minded about philosophical quandaries such as the one we now discuss. One downside is that fall of Islam that I alluded to... by the time Darwin was really out there Islam had moved on from that golden age and there weren't as many scholars around to discuss it. This article looks really interesting, about to check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_creationism
Battle for alcohol in Muslim Russia is deadly business Religion of peace. inb4 moral relativism/hand-wringing/x does it too etc.
I see you (and other people too) doing this a lot. "Self-hating Jews" too, as soon as a Jew criticizes Israel. Do you really think modern European/American left-wingers have anything else than language and skin color in common with the people who colonized Africa 200 years ago? Why do I hate myself if I'm opposed to the actions of someone I don't identify with in the slightest?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/0...calls-men-beat-women-drivers/?test=latestnews why do progressives defend Islam again?
yeah, attempting to prevent women from driving is actually one of the best things to come out of Islam
