Discussion in 'Political/Religious' started by LithoJazzoSphere, Nov 6, 2008.
Skinhead Ron is trolling the fuck out of Rick. Gotta love it.
Fuck I just got home. Did RP dummy anyone yet?
Oh great I get to hear Newt say "the fact is" for the thousandth time.
RP came out early to shit on Frothy a couple times. It was beautiful.
Frothy is the only one who handled the Michigan question correctly.
lol'd at Mitt's "certain ethnic groups" dig at blacks
Ahaha RP giving frothy "...the fuck is this guy?" expression
Oh god hearing Santorum get booed is giving me the biggest chubby.
Romney seems to have stacked the audience. They were cheering him at the slightest statement and booing Rick when he scored what I thought were some pretty solid jabs. Newt is just....Newt. Crazy Uncle Ron is somehow the most lucid person up there tonight; that might be a first. Just shows how horrible this slate of candidates is.
i like how santorum chose a noun
Newt's answer made me lol
Big dick to RP for calling out the media on their BS.
"lol principles" @ santorum
Never happen in a million years (son or father) due to their stances against civil rights and the war on some drugs. They'd have to modify their positions and necessarily completely sell out lolertarianism, but it is noticeable that RP never attacked Romney last night (or anytime recently)...but perhaps this is all just Romney's strategy of preventing RP from a third party run.
Arizona (I think?) has the highest percentage of Mormons outside of Utah.
Speaking of Mormons...there goes Rubio's consideration for VP.
Eh, I don't know, Disappear. It says he's returned to Catholicism and had his First Communion in 1984.....that makes him a Catholic for the last 28 years almost
Maybe so, but I think that will stick in the craw of a lot of the base.
Whatever a craw is.
Well, I will agree that it probably softens his position as a potential VP candidate if Romney is the eventual nominee, but I just don't think it completely disqualifies him. Then again, Romney is one calculating mo-fo, so you know he's got to be thinking along the same lines as you are regarding Rubio's history as a Mormon and how the base will feel about it.
Yeah I'm sure his team is doing the math on it, maybe doing some polling of their own.
Hahahah, that was a pretty hilarious handshake.
I was discussing this with someone the other day, and I think a Romney / Ron Paul ticket might be the only way Republicans can win the white house unless the economy crashes. Basically the far right is going to vote red no matter what (this was the mistake made in 2008), but if he puts Paul on the ticket I bet he can steal away a good number of fence-sitters, wtf Ron Paul acolytes, and maybe even liberals disappointed with Obama. Doubt he'd go for it, though.
Ron Paul secretary of state would probably be cooler though. As long as he has nothing to do with the economy.
I imagine that's Idaho, but Arizona has a bunch.
I'm glad you don't, because it is nowhere near as big of a deal as most people make it out to be.
I highly encourage everyone to read this article which explains pretty well why it's not really an issue.
The problem with this is that most RP fans are very anti-Romney. Probably the thing people like the most about RP is that he doesn't compromise on his principles, and if he went with Romney, it would pretty much destroy that. I think RP would lose most of his fans overnight if RP signed up to run with Romney.
True, and even if it did work, Ron Paul fans are so moronic and irrational that they would probably just assassinate Romney so he could be president.
Austrian School >>> your mainstream crap.
In Ron Paul's Austrian Fantasy Economy, ideally anyone making less than 6 figures wouldn't be able to get a loan. He's a bigoted narcissistic cheapskate.
I like the points that that article makes, but I still feel that it generally misses the point that the very large economic infrastructure (whether controlled by the government or private business) is just too big and spread out to be stable.
I thought Greece was socialism-based, with the government providing too many tax-funded benefits and thus going broke. Like, the opposite of the system RP advocates for.
I'm not really following you--what part of the article are you criticizing?
My point was about the austerity efforts to deal with their debt crisis
What little credibility the Austrians had before 2008 is basically dead now.
GO RICK GO!
I'm trying to google about this and am failing at finding anyone else that views what happened in Greece is an attack on the Austrian School. You have any article links on it?
What happened in Greece is not an attack on the Austrian school, it is the Austrian school. What Paul advises is deep cuts and a cessation of all lending except for the very wealthy. He in fact is promoting a Greece-style austerity measure. The riots there would pale in comparison to the ones here.
Mustaine: I wouldn't vote for Obama. I didn't vote for him last time, thank God, so I have no responsibility for this disaster that's happening to our country. And watching the primaries with the Republicans, I think probably the classiest guy out of all of them is Rick Santorum. I didn't know who Rick Santorum was, and I kind of thought he was the quiet guy, but he was just kind of waiting his turn. And when he did talk, he was very eloquent. I think the thing that sold me on him was when he opted to miss something to go back and be with his daughter, who was very sick. That showed me that family is so important to him, and it showed his integrity. So, that's the guy that — if he makes it — that's the guy I want to vote for.
Translation: I'm voting for Santorum for The President of The United States, because he's not Obama, and he missed some shit to be with his sick daughter. Also, I'm an idiot.
Does that mean he didn't vote for Dubya?
This is my point:
Nothing good is going to come of what is going on in Greece now. The austerity measures are destroying public confidence and their markets.
Except for the fact that he has said a million times that you couldn't immediately get rid of SS or Medicare, and would instead need to ween the people off of it gradually? You're basically saying the side effect of the drugs are worse than the disease, which I can see your point, but wouldn't it have been better if the disease just never existed?
Paulfags don't care about saving the markets, or about growth. They are irrational and blindly self-interested actors who care more about principle and ideological/philosophical consistency, no matter what economic pain it would cause. He is by far the most dangerous of the four GOP candidates.
Well, where is what the noble price winner said on the manner? Link please?
While in principle I agree, in practice this is a completely irrelevant point.
Wrapped in a little bow, wow I wish all problems were that simple. Maybe RP should dedicated his time to building a time machine.
(edit: that's not to say I disagree or that I think it's a bad idea to "cull the herd," if you will.)
And I should say that I am a lot more right-leaning than Krugman and usually disagree with him. However, he is obviously a very smart man, and lately he has been spot-on in his analysis. This isn't about the theoretically underpinnings of Keynesian vs. Austrian. It's about reality, and examples like Europe's crisis are why no one takes Austrians seriously anymore.
I'm just saying, you're blaming the school itself for the problem of implementing it after years of Keynesian economics.
Thank you, I was reading the 'Nobody Understands Debt' piece instead and ' ing.
Yeah, I don't know why I even care. Austrian is probably 100 years past being able to make a difference in this globalized economy. Would of, should of, could of, right. Having said that I still think eliminating some of the pointless departments like Education would be beneficial even if the government does need to increase spending.
And rightly so. The country fucked up global markets when it pulled the Austrierity measures and is lifting markets when it comes closer to a Keynesian bailout.
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