arabic scales

Discussion in 'Musician Talk' started by razors edge, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. razors edge Junior Member

    Member Since:
    Nov 11, 2006
    Message Count:
    138
    so, im a beggining keyboard player and i just learned the arabic scales and thing they are totally awesome sounding. anyone know any other modes/scales that have the same feel?
  2. Uli Rottweiler Junior Member

    Member Since:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Message Count:
    149
    The basic Harmonic Minors (1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7), Phrygians (1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7) and Phrygian Dominants (1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7) obviously have that oriental sound in themselves, but if you listen to oriental music, a lot of it has to do just as much with HOW the scale is played and the phrasing as the actual notes played. Nubian oud players can take a major pentatonic and have that sound very oriental, just by nature of the way they play it. Same thing with minor keys -- natural minor (Aeolian) can sound very oriental when used wisely.

    I suggest listening to a lot of oriental music and getting into the phrasing of the vocals and the melodies - Farid el Atrache, Oum Khalthoum, Rabih Abou Khalil, Fairouz, and Munir Bashir for instance.
  3. shapeup Member

    Member Since:
    Nov 6, 2006
    Message Count:
    7,883
    Try Harmonic minor.
  4. Dr Saad Guest

    Member Since:
    Message Count:
    0
    what exactly are the arabic scales? i've never heard that term before.
  5. Uli Rottweiler Junior Member

    Member Since:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Message Count:
    149
    Went to listen to Anouar Brahem and his trio (oud / pno / acc) live today. Mitey beautiful oud playing, very meditative compositions. Pity I had to snap out of the calm to play a rock cover gig myself right after the concert. Just came home, listening to his "Le Voyage de Sahar", and it's sounding great.
  6. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

    Member Since:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Message Count:
    3,007
    Location:
    Earth
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VROY01EAg"]YouTube - Sabicas- Arabian dance[/ame]

    :p
  7. Uli Rottweiler Junior Member

    Member Since:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Message Count:
    149
    That was a nice new acquaintance, Manolito. Any background info on him? Too lazy to google...
  8. Manolito Mystiq Ladelideladelo

    Member Since:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Message Count:
    3,007
    Location:
    Earth
    This is Agustín Castellón Campos a.k.a. Sabicas.

    Technically he set the standards a lot higher. I would say he was the Paco de Lucia of the 40's (or you could interpret that De Lucia took over his throne). He introduced Flamenco in a grander scale (also outside Spain).
    To be honest. I'm very unfamiliar with him. I discovered him (this piece), because of Paco Peña's cover, also at YouTube.
  9. Sgt. Snake jesus was a mushroom

    Member Since:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Message Count:
    1,314
    A real fun one is the byzantine/hungarian minor scale....

    Its 1, b2, 3, 4, 5 b6 7, so you have 3 chromatic tones, the 7th, the octave, and the flatted 2nd.

    I usually pedal around the 1 and the 4 on the bass, then noodle around the scale (really stress the chromatics), sounds hilariously middle eastern.

    Jake