5/8 Singles Club v. fuck women

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fuck women

fuck women

women of the world take over

I need some sexus.

ITT:

FML

So did you get her number?

lol not in this club

tl;dr as what i see from both women/men's side of relationships (long term/serious)
I wrote down some points today at work. Since I have nothing but 12.5hrs to think... so

Bad experiences, past relationships alone make up a lot of what/how people view current and future relationships. When in reality everyone is different BUT further more in reality... a lot of people are the same. People tend to date in a mold, it seems everyone is broken in their own right... some choose to carry it onto new relationships, some learn and hope it doesn't happen again, some just completely close off.

... I know most of you hate women but women aren't always to blame. Sure we all know how to manipulate for our own good but it doesn't mean we all will. Knowledge is power, power doesn't have to be used.
and... men do it too. example:*girl, i really care about you (while he's saying this to 5 other girls)

As for 'games'. I think games are lame. I know people who are only out for the thrill of the chase, once caught... they are bored. This is both men and women I know who are like this. As for non-hurtful games like... teasing but still giving it up, that can really be hot (just my opinion haha)

Everyone has skeletons and carry their past history with them, it doesn't mean it has to rule them though.

Communication is ALWAYS key, in every relationship you have. If you can't talk... their is no point. Especially in long term/serious relationships... i'm talking anyone that is looking for more than a random one night stand.

If you are in fact looking for only a one night stand, then fine, I don't judge... but that comes with another set of 'opinions/ru;es' if you will.

ummm... Men always blame women, Women always blame men... sick cycle.
Personally, if you fuck up, admit it, work it out, get over it. Remember it, because chances are it could and will happen again. Unless the person is more than 100% committed to "change/do better" then history will repeat itself. It doesn't have to... but most of the time it does. ie: cheating.

Timing, I think has a long to do with it, having things work and work well.

Writing someone off as a friend (which happens on men and women side). Sometimes they see later down that "oh damn that's someone i want to be with" but most the time, sadly... they keep it in friendszone. So i wouldn't hold your breath too long.

As for WAITING for someone... lame. Unless you were together and he/she is off at war or something. Waiting for someone, which i have learned the hard way...
Example: i have a gf/bf but i really want to be with you, i'm married but i'm leaving my husband/wife i promises, i'm not ready for a relationship give me a couple of months, etc. about 99% bullshit excuses for 'keeping you on the string' or an option if their first 5 don't work out.

When relationships turn out badly, sometimes it doesn't mean either person is actually a bad person... just not meant to be with you. I know a lot of great people who would make horrible bf/gfs but they are some of my closest friends. There are a lot of examples/reasons I think this but once again this is just a broad overview of that i see from myself, friends, people in general.

I can't read the last point because I was falling asleep BUT...

last example... for all you who hate women. I don't want to go into horrible amount of detail because I doubt many of you have made it this far but...
i'm sure none of you have stared down cheating (someone i was in love with for far longer than i even knew my bf at the time, confessed his love for me... i did not cheat though i had the opportunity)
how many of you have given more chances than you can count? or took you bf/gf on vacations (i took mine to france), dealt with their family calling you a bitch and being nice to your face, giving you lectures, lying, being hit or have your bf cheat on you and get another girl preg while you tried everything to make him feel better? i have been though all these things with past bfs and today... i am single. most their decision, one (4yr+ relationship) was mine (only because after so long you can't take lying and being told sorry to) sure i'm no saint but i've not even touched the lows these guys did. so before you think all women are whores or stupid or suck... think again. just like as much as i hate men, i know there are good ones out there.
(short list of shit i've gone far beyond what i should have, maybe it makes me stupid for treating them so well but like i said if you're in it, you should be in it 100%)


**this obviously is just an overview so if you want me to go into more detail, i can but once again... i care, right? ha**

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she put you in the friendzone?


you put her in the rape zone

We don't really hate women. Just sayin'

brett, bebe... we need to talk when i actually get home to my apt about protein shakes and stuff. just saying, before i forget.

some do, ha. but no, i was just being serious. i could write a book on this stuff... but i figure is anyone wants to ask a women who is going to give a straight answer. they can ask me.

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okaly dokaly. i think i'm just studyin all night :-/ so hit me up

still single and lonely

i won't be home until tomorrow night, i'm at my parents house still.
has to work tomorrow boo.
i'll get a hold of you somehow when i get home.

pretty sure we've already had a "fuck women" version.

on the verge of being out of this club...

Yeah. They smell nice and are often cool people

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Bad experiences, past relationships alone make up a lot of what/how people view current and future relationships. When in reality everyone is different BUT further more in reality... a lot of people are the same. People tend to date in a mold, it seems everyone is broken in their own right... some choose to carry it onto new relationships, some learn and hope it doesn't happen again, some just completely close off.
for the most part. I think in general the ones who try to better themselves usually end up with a better chance of acquiring a successful serious relationship

... I know most of you hate women but women aren't always to blame. Sure we all know how to manipulate for our own good but it doesn't mean we all will. Knowledge is power, power doesn't have to be used.
and... men do it too. example:*girl, i really care about you (while he's saying this to 5 other girls)
OK.
also: it really grinds my gears when anyone does this and thinks it's totally fine because they get away with it and the people they are doing this to actually believe them

As for 'games'. I think games are lame. I know people who are only out for the thrill of the chase, once caught... they are bored. This is both men and women I know who are like this. As for non-hurtful games like... teasing but still giving it up, that can really be hot (just my opinion haha)
Games are for people who do not know how to develop a relationship in a sincere manner. For those people, it's just a matter of pass/fail - and if you fail at those peoples games, then you lose. This is lame. And yes, pseudo cock-poon tease games are quite titillating at times

Everyone has skeletons and carry their past history with them, it doesn't mean it has to rule them though.
yep, going back to the ability to learn from one's past - peeps that can improve their own definition of the ideal relationship and that they don't have to keep living the same miserable shitty relationships over and over will have greater chances at acquiring an actual successful relationship (duh)

Communication is ALWAYS key, in every relationship you have. If you can't talk... their is no point. Especially in long term/serious relationships... i'm talking anyone that is looking for more than a random one night stand.
Obviously. Unless it is an arranged relationship, and if you show any disregard for it then you will be killed. No one is a mind reader so you have to let the other person know what the fuck is up

If you are in fact looking for only a one night stand, then fine, I don't judge... but that comes with another set of 'opinions/ru;es' if you will.
no comment

ummm... Men always blame women, Women always blame men... sick cycle.
Personally, if you fuck up, admit it, work it out, get over it. Remember it, because chances are it could and will happen again. Unless the person is more than 100% committed to "change/do better" then history will repeat itself. It doesn't have to... but most of the time it does. ie: cheating.
People that blame other people with illogical reasoning are usually the ones to blame and should be avoided


Timing, I think has a long to do with it, having things work and work well.
Usually this has to do with perpetuating feelings of affection and/or remorse towards others. (i.e. oh I wish we could blahblah but I still care about whatshisface). Usually these people will never truly change even when they say they do and should be avoided

Writing someone off as a friend (which happens on men and women side). Sometimes they see later down that "oh damn that's someone i want to be with" but most the time, sadly... they keep it in friendszone. So i wouldn't hold your breath too long.
Going along with the perpetuating feelings - usually one person is already invested in another, which leaves you not being invested in. If you don't realize this within the first meetings of meeting someone and still try to get the other person invested in you romantically, then you are stupid

As for WAITING for someone... lame. Unless you were together and he/she is off at war or something. Waiting for someone, which i have learned the hard way...
Example: i have a gf/bf but i really want to be with you, i'm married but i'm leaving my husband/wife i promises, i'm not ready for a relationship give me a couple of months, etc. about 99% bullshit excuses for 'keeping you on the string' or an option if their first 5 don't work out.
more perpetuafeelings

When relationships turn out badly, sometimes it doesn't mean either person is actually a bad person... just not meant to be with you. I know a lot of great people who would make horrible bf/gfs but they are some of my closest friends. There are a lot of examples/reasons I think this but once again this is just a broad overview of that i see from myself, friends, people in general.
makes sense that people who would not fit romantically would make excellent platonic relationships


I can't read the last point because I was falling asleep BUT...

last example... for all you who hate women. I don't want to go into horrible amount of detail because I doubt many of you have made it this far but...
i'm sure none of you have stared down cheating (someone i was in love with for far longer than i even knew my bf at the time, confessed his love for me... i did not cheat though i had the opportunity)
how many of you have given more chances than you can count? or took you bf/gf on vacations (i took mine to france), dealt with their family calling you a bitch and being nice to your face, giving you lectures, lying, being hit or have your bf cheat on you and get another girl preg while you tried everything to make him feel better? i have been though all these things with past bfs and today... i am single. most their decision, one (4yr+ relationship) was mine (only because after so long you can't take lying and being told sorry to) sure i'm no saint but i've not even touched the lows these guys did. so before you think all women are whores or stupid or suck... think again. just like as much as i hate men, i know there are good ones out there.
(short list of shit i've gone far beyond what i should have, maybe it makes me stupid for treating them so well but like i said if you're in it, you should be in it 100%)
tl:but still r ; people that say that you need to be willing to sacrifice/compromise for a relationship are just saying that to justify their own relationship. Yes, it makes sense to an extent, but I wouldn't bother in investing an entire relationship that was full of turmoil (duh)

**this obviously is just an overview so if you want me to go into more detail, i can but once again... i care, right? ha**

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most are still not worth it. and have horrible taste in music

forty years old, single, and still lovin' the ladies, married or single!

I read every page of the last thread

Basically agree, obviously you went into more depth than I did. For time and length sake. As for my relationship (that was a few, most of it from one) and if you've never been in a long term (idk if you have) there are some things few understand unless they have experienced it... but once again... that part was extremely cut down (2%) for the sake of space and sanity.

ha. ha. ha.
i thought you had a gf?

this is gonna be another night of depression, I can tell.

ps. TTP have you ever been married, engaged etc.? longest relationship...
why are you not married?

just wondering, always interests me why people do and are they way they are.

Sup

I tend to sabotage my relationships for fear of getting my heart broken, so women usualy can only put up with me for several weeks. david lee roth best put it when he remade "I am just a jigalo"

I have never been married, and have no children that I know of although one of my exes tells me that I have a daughter named Michelle Rose ****** I have never met her and my ex says that when I am on my death bed I will.

I need to be banned from online dating sites. I get depressed and then I go there to look around... and then when I realize none of them want me either, I get even more depressed. I get so depressed that I these chest pains on my left side... like my body is trying to will my heart to just stop and let it all come to an end.

tech you should go to brazil and share prostitutes with noodz you'd be great buddies

Yeah man you seem like you need a pro.

It's true, women have less that they can do to improve their value.

It's sad, but thankfully for them, there's a lot of guys who lack confidence and are incompetent with women. Mediocre matches made in heaven.

He Understands

What bothers me the most and makes our friendship SO FUCKING AWKWARD is that after she told that my past bothers her and means that we will likely never date, I asked her why it bothered her so much and she asked if we could just change the subject.

For fuck's sake ladies, if you're going to make a statement like that, BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF. A guy who's been nothing but nice and respectful to you, and especially whom you've expressed the same interest in him that he said he has in you, deserves it.

Otherwise you come off as an excuse-giving bitch.

Just a lil' tip for ya.

Not yet.

12 year old is coming over tomorrow, wish me luck.

Be very careful of the third party information. Check it out completely before hitting her up. Well meaning, helpful people can be completely wrong about such status. I've been on the receiving end of a few awkward conversations with women due to encouragement from 'helpful' friends who, as it turns out, knew fuck all about the lady's relationship status.

Yeah, well I'm counting on the same friend to get me the contact details, so we'll wait and see.

Thanks diss but I don't need that kind of advice... I'm not a fucking immature bitch. Good luck with her


YES!!!!! Chrono...

Damn you for being so awesomely honest

I'm still in the situation with the girl with the emo/suicidal bf....

We have been 'sexting' constantly for about 3 weeks now, very open about everything and how much we like each other. We both talked about how their was an instant connection when we spoke alone for the first time (us both wanting to kiss each other but being interrupted before we could, but she still came to kiss me goodnight). She seems to think of me as this 'perfect hot guy' that probably gets shitloads of offers, is highly passionate, mysterious, kinky, not self centered and a nice guy. Pretty much everything she says is really in my favour.

As I posted in the other thread a few weeks ago, we really got intimate one night about 2 or 3 weeks ago, all the while being very quiet because there were others sleeping (which probably made it hotter). I was pretty much playing with her pussy, grinding her back, rubbing and kissing for 2/3 hours under the covers. Sorry for the details kids.

BUT....the boyfriend
She has been with him for 3 years or something. They always have problems lately. He guilt trips her saying he will kill himself if she leaves him. Everyone hates him (now including myself). All the time (usually every evening or morning) she says stuff like 'I wish you were here to help me out because nobody else will do it for me' when she is horny, but never wants to talk about him (neither do I really). She says things like 'you never want to get in a situation were you are trapped like me'. She apparently still loves him. Them being together for three years doesn't help things at all.

At the minute our thing is totally secret and my plan is to do something sexual that will tease her at every minute we get alone (which isn't often at all), ask her to meet up in secret, and gradually convince her to leave him.
She even wants to have a threesome with me and another girl.

Believe it or not, she actually isn't a slut. She has only ever been with this one guy. She is the innocent type on the outside for sure and even looks innocent, petite, cute etc...

Any suggestions on what to do next, other than what I have already said?
Also, fml!

I've done this once before.
Really fun.

Watch out... My awesomeness is only an act...ah ah ahhhhh, it's called 'bait' hahaha jk
*devil horns*

Very petty Facebook-related question oh boy

I'll try to keep it to cliffs:

-ex and I broke up around March then ended up making out again in maybe April but did not get back together
-didn't speak over summer, but she wrote Happy birthday on my Facebook in August
-only spoken to her once between August and now
-her birthday is Tuesday

do I write any Happy birthday message on her wall?

Just do it, as a friendly gesture.

Yeah, I think you should also.