Since the GOP is all but decided, now let's turn our attention to this fall's general election and events leading up to it. This includes discussion of Obama, Romney and respective issues relevant to their election prospects.
Watch what happens now with the polls when Romney's full frontal assault on Obama begins. This is going to be the most negative campaign in history, and more money will be spent on this election than any previous election. The ads will be non-stop and 95% negative.
Thinking about it though--I mean if you had $300mm, how much of your own cash would YOU be willing to spend for a realistic chance of being the leader of the free world? I'd spend a lot.
Honestly, I have a hard time understanding why ANYONE actually wants that job so I don't know if I can answer the question other than to say I wouldn't spend any of my money on it. Besides, there are so many PACs lined up against Obama now that Romney isn't even going to need to pour too much (if any) of his personal wealth into this election. He's got an excellent fundraising organization who will raise all of the cash he needs to put up a hell of a challenge.
An infrequent instance of me loving my Texas residency. We get no such advertising. I think I'd spend up to a half of it to prevent my getting the job. They've taken absolutely every single bit of fun out of it. I'd have loved to have the gig back in Kennedy's day. I wouldn't wish it on anybody in the modern era. I suspect Reagan was probably the last president from an era where you could enjoy the trappings of the office, and that asshole was far too stiff and senile to appreciate it.
Seems like a good gig to me. You make a nearly 1% level salary, get a free house, get to travel around the world, get more perks than god, your kids can basically go to college anywhere, and are set for life after just 4-8 years.
You are also despised by half of the US population and a good chunk of the world population, constantly under the threat of assassination, have very little, if any privacy and you probably age 25 years in the 4 to 8 that you that job. The money isn't a meaningful attraction for me either since I make almost what a president makes already and my house is 80% paid off so the free housing is also meaningless. My kid graduated from college 5 years ago. But for a young person like you I guess I can see how it might be an attractive gig.
Who cares if half the population despises you? You also have a chance to change history (for better or worse) which is pretty cool.
Neither of them will significantly change the country, so I can't really see myself voting for them. I want someone who will revolutionize the country and turn it into something it's never been before. It's been a terrible country with terrible presidents for over 100 years. And with mostly terrible citizens, which is why I don't see things changing any time soon.
But you never get to enjoy the trappings of the office. Obama gets lambasted for smoking a damn cigarette, much less burning one with Willie Nelson on the parapet. You're much better off making friends with the president and swinging an ambassadorship somewhere groovy for a few years. Those guys get to have all the fun they want, with few of the responsibilities and no oversight.
I will vote for Romney IF he does two things: a. Defends women's rights to birth control b. Actually comes up with an economic plan that consists of something non-crazy and different than "Let's just go back to Reaganomics!"
I can't vote for any social conservative. I can be swayed either way on economics, though. The biggest issues for me are ending imperialistic behavior overseas, and putting a stop to things like the Patriot Act and NDAA 2012. Romney doesn't believe in making a change to either of those practices, and while Obama likes to talk a lot, his actions show he's not much different in these areas. Also of importance to me is ending the war on drugs, since I believe our drug policies are largely at fault for the death of thousands of Mexicans due to the cartel wars. In fact I would not be opposed to Mexico bringing some kind of lawsuit for damages in those deaths. Again, I trust neither of these two aristocrats to support this position.
As I said in the other thread, I think it's really important that Gary Johnson finds his way onto that general election debate stage. I wouldn't want him a president, but his presence would keep this election from turning into a Bush/Kerry affair, where both candidate tried really hard to pretend they were that different from each other.
I thought the salary was still $250k I don't make anywhere near $400k Still zero interest for me in being president. perpetual change: Gary Johnson is nobody. And he's going nowhere. He won't be in any debates either. Nothing will stop this election from turning into the same old fucking mud-slinging shit storm that every other presidential election in the modern era has turned into. The difference now, of course, is thanks to the right-wing court that (mostly) Dumbass appointed, we're going to have to endure even MORE negative campaigning than we did in the past, because those PACs are gonna come out guns blazing against Obama.
That would be awesome, he's my favorite dude in the race, but as knh said, I don't see that happening, no matter how much support he gains. The media completely controls the debates, they set the rules for who attends, and as GJ saw in the GOP primary, they freely break their own rules to exclude who they want to exclude. The media knows that the biggest ratings will come from a straight-up 1-on-1 match between Obama and Romney. The questions asked will be no better than the questions asked during the GOP primary, designed to assist the candidates into pooping out "zingers" with a wink at the camera. They'll completely ignore serious policy matters and focus on stuff that shouldn't be an issue ("Should we teach creationism alongside evolution?" for example). America is fucked and is going to stay fucked until the politicians and the media moguls that are in bed with them are KILLED. American needs a complete 2nd revolution to start over, learn from the mistakes of the 20th century. We had it good for the first 100-125 years (well, aside from slavery), but it went wrong somewhere after the country became too powerful.
Eh, I think we don't necessarily need a revolution, but we do need Americans (including our powerful economic leaders) to realize that we (the people, not the gov't) need to take the economy into our own hands and stop fighting about who's in control in Washington. Buying local/buying American and encouraging the rise of self-sufficient local industry is what will create jobs, save the economy and the country.
Lol buying local/American. I am going to buy whatever is the cheapest, all other things equal. The fact that something is "American" adds zero value to my purchasing decision. If we can't compete on price then let our manufacturing sector fail.
I disagree. While in Obama you have a moderate, essentially 90s Republican who doesn't really do much good but doesn't fuck things up much either, in Santorum you have the American equivalent of radical Islam and in Ron Paul you have a dude who hasn't picked up an economics or history textbook in 50 years. If you're not going to be a very proactive president, you should at least be smart when it comes to things that you have to deal with, and Obama is certainly not a stupid man. I'm not sure I can say the same for Paul or Santorum.
Is this the guy better than Obama, because sometimes i think some of you guys are talking about someone else. It looks so obvious that this guy is a corporation employee. Might be the worst republican for the american economy atm. But what the fuck do i know...i'm a eurofag.
Not a corporation employee. A corporation head. I say that's a good thing. I want someone who has an ivy league degree and whose business experience has exposed him to problem-solving in many different industries. Fuck Santorum and his "blue collar" schtick.
and what was Obama's qualifications to be President? He is by far the worst President in modern US History.. anything would be a better.. a half empty Slurpee cup would be more qualified and "Team Obama LOL" is filled with morons, losers, radicals and loons... just look at Johnnie Carsons outragous out of touch scary comments yesterday on radical Islam and Africa... For F' sake Id take the dumb ass Dog Bo ( named after himself BO ( Barack Obama) over this insane radical narcasist... again.. anything would be better.. just pull a person off the street and give them the job for all I care
While I certainly agree he doesn't have the best presidential "resume," he has a decent political background, a very relevant academic background, and has seemed surprisingly competent so far. I would have to disagree that he's the "worst" recent president--I would give that honor to Carter, and we've had presidents just as unremarkable (Ford--arguably the least qualified president in recent memory, as well as Bush 1 and 2).
If I have to explain to one more idiot why "corporate America" was just one of many factors in the economic crisis, and probably not the most important or blameworthy, I am going to put myself in a coma from facepalming.
No. I have explained this issue more thoroughly than anyone on this board multiple times. Just use the search function or look at the OWS thread.
Im sure you saw that Obama has surpassed Carter on the misery index variable of the price of gasoline..Id have to guess Obama has put im more regulations to hurt the economy also.. Look..Carter sucked.. he was horrid.. I am FINE WITH ROMNEY.. Im fine with anyone else but Obama and or anyone associated with Obama. time to turn the page and just call Obama the abject failure he is and for us in the USA to get a new voice of reason and our values back in office..
Of course, since the president has nothing to do with the price of gas, that isn't really a relevant complaint. Explain why you think Obama is so much worse than, say, Clinton or W. Because literally all I hear from you about how Obama is the worst president ever, but I've never heard you explain, in a comparative way, why.
It's ok, i was talking about the coma. Dunno what i was looking for in this thread to be honest, because Romney would not be the first retarded republican you guys put into the White House.
But Mitt Romney has a lot of money and that means he'll teach the American people how to have some of that money.
